[astroricardo]

Originally Posted by akl1234

Was looking at some well priced Verts but…… idk I feel they ruin the shape of the car? lol have always wanted a convertible

Just get a convertible then.

[TopJimmy]

No Vert. You don’t want any leaks or the tiny trunk. A coupe or sedan is a little safer.

[Mike02z]

Almost bought a vert but I think I’d put the top down 3-4 times per year and I feel like it puts you on display and I’m an extreme introvert

My suggestion for whatever it’s worth is G80/82 with CF roof. No worries about leaks with the vert or the sunroof. As they age they tend to leak.

[Berzerker]

Originally Posted by TopJimmy

No Vert. You don’t want any leaks or the tiny trunk. A coupe or sedan is a little safer.

Originally Posted by Mike02z

Almost bought a vert but I think I’d put the top down 3-4 times per year and I feel like it puts you on display and I’m an extreme introvert

My suggestion for whatever it’s worth is G80/82 with CF roof. No worries about leaks with the vert or the sunroof. As they age they tend to leak.

1) The trunk isn't *that* much smaller. You only lose about 2ft^3 if the top is up/compartment is stowed

2) There's nothing to suggest a vert is less safe considering it still has the proper roll bar mechanism in the event of a flip

3) The vert top is one continuous piece of cloth without any gaps except around the back window, the gap is ridiculously tight with a lot of border and glue around it, I doubt it'd leak in any appreciable amount of time. Absolutely not in the time OP would probably own this car.

4) I'm pretty sure you're in my area, I put the roof down almost every day during the spring/fall and in the cooler parts of the day in the summer. It's really only the winter that I wouldn't have it down all that much, and on warmer days you can do it if you find yoursel fin that situation.

[Lupeskew]

Had a 2004 E46 convertible until fairly recently. Original top, no leaks, 150k miles

[oversteer12]

My car. Hope you feel better.

[MJBO]

Originally Posted by oversteer12

My car. Hope you feel better.

Corkscrew get you the wrong way?

[ChrisM4]

Wow that was a big hit! You should be thankful the steering wheel airbag didn’t go off as I know several people that have had broken wrists, black eyes and a broken nose from steering wheel airbag deployments.

What did the other driver say? You are likely going to be very sore and have some lingering soft tissue damage so I’d contact a doctor right away for a full evaluation and also line up some rehab when you are cleared to do so.

Hope you have a speedy and full recovery!

[NFARVW]

18 year and counting Firefighter here, I may be able to offer some insight.

Modern airbags and software are WAY more advanced than even 10 years ago. If the bags did not fire, there's a reason why.

Airbags no longer just fire from frontal crumple zone activation. They now account for body in seat positioning, angle of car, load at impact, speed at impact, seat belt pre tensioner, and advanced algorithms determining probability of injury to driver whether it fires or not.

You can always remove the crash data recorder and send it in for analysis. But chances are, if that bag fired, the system determined it would have caused you more injury than without. Simple as that. Just wanted you to have some real world advice. I work high speed crashes every 3 days as my station is located near an interstate and 3 highways in a busy FL city.

The takeaway is you're alive and that's all that matters. Replace the metal and plastic car and you'll move on with life.

[DSTR]

Originally Posted by NFARVW

18 year and counting Firefighter here, I may be able to offer some insight.

Modern airbags and software are WAY more advanced than even 10 years ago. If the bags did not fire, there's a reason why.

Airbags no longer just fire from frontal crumple zone activation. They now account for body in seat positioning, angle of car, load at impact, speed at impact, seat belt pre tensioner, and advanced algorithms determining probability of injury to driver whether it fires or not.

You can always remove the crash data recorder and send it in for analysis. But chances are, if that bag fired, the system determined it would have caused you more injury than without. Simple as that. Just wanted you to have some real world advice. I work high speed crashes every 3 days as my station is located near an interstate and 3 highways in a busy FL city.

The takeaway is you're alive and that's all that matters. Replace the metal and plastic car and you'll move on with life.

Superb post. I hope you are safe and well with your job. Thanks for the data and protecting those around you!

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by NFARVW

18 year and counting Firefighter here, I may be able to offer some insight.

Modern airbags and software are WAY more advanced than even 10 years ago. If the bags did not fire, there's a reason why.

Airbags no longer just fire from frontal crumple zone activation. They now account for body in seat positioning, angle of car, load at impact, speed at impact, seat belt pre tensioner, and advanced algorithms determining probability of injury to driver whether it fires or not.

You can always remove the crash data recorder and send it in for analysis. But chances are, if that bag fired, the system determined it would have caused you more injury than without. Simple as that. Just wanted you to have some real world advice. I work high speed crashes every 3 days as my station is located near an interstate and 3 highways in a busy FL city.

The takeaway is you're alive and that's all that matters. Replace the metal and plastic car and you'll move on with life.

100% this. Thank you for more specifically articulating what I have been saying above, great post. Still a small chance the wheel bag didn't deploy in error but I HIGHLY doubt it given the other bags did AND he did not hit the wheel or the windshield.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by NFARVW

18 year and counting Firefighter here, I may be able to offer some insight.

Modern airbags and software are WAY more advanced than even 10 years ago. If the bags did not fire, there's a reason why.

Airbags no longer just fire from frontal crumple zone activation. They now account for body in seat positioning, angle of car, load at impact, speed at impact, seat belt pre tensioner, and advanced algorithms determining probability of injury to driver whether it fires or not.

You can always remove the crash data recorder and send it in for analysis. But chances are, if that bag fired, the system determined it would have caused you more injury than without. Simple as that. Just wanted you to have some real world advice. I work high speed crashes every 3 days as my station is located near an interstate and 3 highways in a busy FL city.

The takeaway is you're alive and that's all that matters. Replace the metal and plastic car and you'll move on with life.

Thanks for sharing.

[BryanCO]

Originally Posted by Berzerker

Is it really that hard to admit you're wrong?
.

[Berzerker]

Originally Posted by BryanCO

I guess it is...

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by nearwater4me

I hate those who don't pay attention while driving.
That stupid driver should be charged with attempted manslaughter.

Here's something that could work in these situations:

I once got a speeding ticket and went to court to fight it. Ended up pleading it down but while I was there was able to witness the judge process a bunch of tickets that had been written for speeding in a construction zone. Not only did the judge not let them plea bargain their case down, in addition to fining them he also assigned them to sit through 8 hours of discussion with a support group designed to comfort people who had loved ones killed while working in highway construction zones. It really hit hard for me because not long before that, one of the excavation contractors I employed at the time had one of his guys killed after being hit by a car in a work zone. Not my project, but I was close with the owner and he was understandably devastated.

I would imagine you'd be far less likely to ever drive distracted again if you were forced to sit and speak to the families of the victims of people who had been killed by distracted drivers. To sit and learn their pain and grief and have them ask you: was that text really worth me losing my family member forever? Have to be faced with their pain and anguish? I can't imagine how painful that would be.

[akl1234]

Originally Posted by oversteer12

My car. Hope you feel better.

OMG I hope you are ok? Looks like you spun from the damage? Trying to get respond to everyone who has chimed in.

[akl1234]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

Wow that was a big hit! You should be thankful the steering wheel airbag didn’t go off as I know several people that have had broken wrists, black eyes and a broken nose from steering wheel airbag deployments.

What did the other driver say? You are likely going to be very sore and have some lingering soft tissue damage so I’d contact a doctor right away for a full evaluation and also line up some rehab when you are cleared to do so.

Hope you have a speedy and full recovery!

Thank you for the message. I have been told that as well! She was a Pregnant middle age woman got out of her car and walked to the curb. I have a compression fracture in my spine that will heal over time but PT and many ortho visits to make sure of this. I am Lawyered up and ready for her to claim something caused her to swerve..... Wondering if the drive recorder has anything stored.....

[akl1234]

Originally Posted by NFARVW

18 year and counting Firefighter here, I may be able to offer some insight.

Modern airbags and software are WAY more advanced than even 10 years ago. If the bags did not fire, there's a reason why.

Airbags no longer just fire from frontal crumple zone activation. They now account for body in seat positioning, angle of car, load at impact, speed at impact, seat belt pre tensioner, and advanced algorithms determining probability of injury to driver whether it fires or not.

You can always remove the crash data recorder and send it in for analysis. But chances are, if that bag fired, the system determined it would have caused you more injury than without. Simple as that. Just wanted you to have some real world advice. I work high speed crashes every 3 days as my station is located near an interstate and 3 highways in a busy FL city.

The takeaway is you're alive and that's all that matters. Replace the metal and plastic car and you'll move on with life.

This was my understanding as well having a software background. So thankfully it did not cause more damage to me. What was more interesting was hers did fire in her Jeep. My assumption was she was going way faster then I was(35mph for me) and larger car. But I am blessed to have walked away with a compression fracture that will heal over time. Just limited atm.

[akl1234]

Originally Posted by Niko1Devynios

Wow. Glad you walked away from that one. That's a brutal crash. Best wishes for a speedy recovery and a more-than-satisfactory settlement.

Looks like you are in my neck of the woods (Gainesville)? The way people drive out here, I have already done the thought exercise of what I would do...I'd get another G82, honestly.

I actually live in Tysons and was on my way to babysit my nephews for the night not even half a mile away on Old Carolina rd. Just blows my mind at how many people cannot pay attention to the road these days. And mind you she was Pregnant! like wtf!!!

[geko29]

Originally Posted by bmwdrive

I'm glad you're OK. If it were me after walking away from such an accident, I don't think I would ever buy anything but a BMW.

Exactly. My first reaction to the pictures were to note that despite the entire front end of the car being completely obliterated, it looks like the drivers door will still latch properly and have even panel gaps all the way around. That level of structural integrity is seriously impressive.

[oversteer12]

Originally Posted by akl1234

OMG I hope you are ok? Looks like you spun from the damage? Trying to get respond to everyone who has chimed in.

I’m doing ok. Only had some bruises. I spun at t6. Obviously I’m devastated but BMW has protected us from serious injuries.

[BEAR-AvHistory]

Originally Posted by Mike02z

Almost bought a vert but I think I’d put the top down 3-4 times per year and I feel like it puts you on display and I’m an extreme introvert

My suggestion for whatever it’s worth is G80/82 with CF roof. No worries about leaks with the vert or the sunroof. As they age they tend to leak.

Had two BMW convertibles that lived outside 24/7-365. 2004 to 2012 & 2013 to 2021. No leaks ever. First ever convertible was bought in 1959 & have has at least one ever since.

Leaking tops may have occurred but were never an issue as far as I can remember.

OP very happy to see you are doing well. Am concerned that the steering wheel bag at least did not deploy. Looks like a pretty straight on impact.