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My take is, until there is some significant shift in electric infrastructure, we won't see any of the German brands take a serious stance. Sure they will have models here and there, but it will feel like it wasn't a full effort. |
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And that's because they priced the 8er that way from the get go. We won't know until final details comes out, but I think the 4er Gran Coupe is going to remain the range topper for the 3/4er and if BMW decides to come out with a M4 Gran Coupe, it's going to carry the premium over the M3 and M4 Coupe.
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My understanding is BMW is the number 1 brand traded in for a new Tesla. That's like getting kicked square in the nuts the way I see it.
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Long game, unless Tesla as a company can get to the manufacturing scale that BMW, Audi and Mercedes are at, it's only a matter of time before the German 3 fully go electric and when that time comes, there is zero doubt that the end product, in all aspects, will be better than Tesla. Pricing aside, we already seen what an EV can be and what we would expect with the Taycan, I'm sure all of them can do something quite similar with a lower price tag. |
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Tesla's major advantage is their battery factory's, as well as their worldwide supercharger network.
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If the GC really does account for 50% of sales of the 4 series, as the article states.
They’d be fools for not offering an M version That’s basically doubling your sales in offering an M GC. The sportback RS5 outsells the RS5 coupe as well So the market is definitely there, wether BMW wants a piece of it or if it’s all Audi’s is the question.
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Much more useable overall compared to the 3er sedan.
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I am sure they talking about the M performance variant of the new I4.
Same as the top 7 series will be full electric. Since the new M GmbH full electric hyper car was cancelled, I am sure they will now focusing on the I4 Performance which will be the first M electric car instead. |
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I don't think BMW would release the M4 GC for this generation, M3 has been strong for the 4 doors segment and it would not make sense to have another 4 doors to compete with M3.
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No coupe only gran coupe.
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BMW is putting an "M" on every car it seems...
Why bother with the BMW rondel? From now on it's "M, formerly known as BMW" ... and the hood ornament can be replaced too. |
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In my experience with owning a 3er and 4gc from the f* generation, the gc drives differently and has a feel that is generally different from the 3 series. Those who were in the market for a 3 series and didn't at least test drive a gc, did themselves a disservice.
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Audi is selling a lot of RS4 & RS6 tourings in Europe, and BMW has nothing to offer there and stoped the M5 touring quite a while ago... Personally I think we won't see the M4 GC, this part will be taken over by the i4 (performance) |
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He was talking about branding the already-known-to-be-coming flagship 520hp dual-motor i4 as an M product. This vehicle will be available from launch of the i4. |
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