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7:10s | 2 | 2.94% | |
7:20s | 9 | 13.24% | |
7:30s | 35 | 51.47% | |
7:40s | 13 | 19.12% | |
7:50s | 3 | 4.41% | |
Slower than the F8x | 6 | 8.82% | |
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11-05-2020, 02:57 PM | #23 |
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What I am trying to say is that the S58's cooling improvement is already reflected in the S58's power advantage. It is not "over and above" to help its 'ring time.
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I disagree. The paper power gap is the peak power gap under one set of controlled conditions. If one engine fluctuates downwards with larger amplitudes and/or more frequently during a fastest lap the average power advantage is larger than the paper gap.
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OK, too much technical speculation here for me to argue further.
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That this cooling will improve the G8X 'ring lap time over and above the stated power increase is too much speculation for me to debate.
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It’s not much to debate it’s a technical advancement of the G8X that could impact the ring time. Let’s leave it at that. This whole thread is a bunch of facts leading to rampant speculation on the result from a complex array of parameters and how well they are working dynamically in the G8X during a Nordschleife lap. The range of the possible outcome is quite large.
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Does anyone know what the weight difference will be for a base model with 6MT/RWD vs the competition model w AWD/auto? I doubt it will be enough to negate the positive track results of AWD/ZF combo...but just curious. I'd have to imagine the base would be a couple hundred lbs lighter ...?
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We know that 6MT to 8AT is 50lb on the G8X and AWD on other BMW models is 140~150lb, so 200lb is in the right ballpark. Also figure that an 8AT AWD drivetrain will have a fair bit more rotating inertia and loss than a 6MT RWD one, so the 2 might be closer than we think.
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As for fun to drive, if you are a 6 MT die hard there’s no reason sweating over the performance difference, is there? |
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I think that's a good question, especially over a large track like the Ring. Does the power advantage outweigh the extra weight, the automatic tranny, and the crappy brakes? I would say no, but you never really know. The G8X is what 6 or 7 years newer, you would think that with the pace technology advances, it should be faster around the track. I hope to be surprised. It would be cool to see the M3 the leader of the pack again.
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Totally agree. This is a 4 door daily driven car. At the end of the day, it REALLY doesn't matter how many seconds the car is slower around some random race track driven by a stranger. Its about driving enjoyment.
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Fo an apples-to-apples comparison, you would need to use 7:34 for the F82 GTS time, as all others are AM&S/SA supertest times.
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Nice! The 992 C2S is 7:30.41 and the C8 is 7:29.90 for comparisons. For a 4 door family sedan that can go around the track just as fast as those dedicated track cars, that's pretty impressive.
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