[Ex_Stig]

Originally Posted by JF4th

Just call around and place yourself on a list and drop a deposit if needed. I'm #1 at my dealer. They are unsure if they will or will not get an allocation however. So my deposit is refundable.

Also, I placed myself on their list back in Jan.

Prime example of this is the upcoming Z06. Most dealers had waitlist 20-30 deep well before they even did their press release. Attempting to place yourself on any list was comical by the end of the press release.

Happy Hunting

Yup, totally agree. Once the car is officially announced it is way to late to try and get an early allocation (unless you pay over MSRP).

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by icecrow001

Agree this one. However, is there possible dealer big boss has the deal with BMW headquarters saying you will be sure get few slots? it is all up to BMW and many other facts. But if there is production line. Some dealers for sure will get some no matter currently the allocation started or not.

Usually the biggest dealers (in sales volume) will get allocation for special cars. Ex: My home town dealer told me had 0 chance of getting an M5CS and 0 chance of the incoming M4 CSL so I went to the biggest dealer in my area who got 2 M5CS allocation and he told me he is 100% confident he will get an M4 CSL.

[JCZ5]

About a month ago I put a deposit for a M3CS allocation at my local dealer. In fact, I wanted to put a deposit 8 months ago, but thought it was way too early. But now it makes sense as production is about a year away (March 2023).

My dealer has been pretty good to me and for once I'm #1 on the list. Hopefully we will hear something about it at the end of the year.

[Mar48]

You're a year ahead.... I was thinking the M3CS would be built as a 2023 model starting July 2022... I think it's actually a 2024 model starting to be produced in July 2023...

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by Mar48

You're a year ahead.... I was thinking the M3CS would be built as a 2023 model starting July 2022... I think it's actually a 2024 model starting to be produced in July 2023...

From the future model thread

M3 CS: production 03/23 - 02/24, 540hp, automatic, xDrive, standard bucket seats, standard new M specific headlights, also lots of carbon things as standard.

[JCZ5]

Originally Posted by PLF69

From the future model thread

M3 CS: production 03/23 - 02/24, 540hp, automatic, xDrive, standard bucket seats, standard new M specific headlights, also lots of carbon things as standard.

Originally Posted by Mar48

You're a year ahead.... I was thinking the M3CS would be built as a 2023 model starting July 2022... I think it's actually a 2024 model starting to be produced in July 2023...

Originally Posted by PLF69

From the future model thread

M3 CS: production 03/23 - 02/24, 540hp, automatic, xDrive, standard bucket seats, standard new M specific headlights, also lots of carbon things as standard.

The opportunity cost to "secure" #1 on the waitlist was minimal, so why not lol. And yep, production was moved up to March 2023. This, I think announcement will be at earliest end of the year, but possibly Q1 of next year before March. Either way, if I like it (which I don't see why not based on the specs) I will proceed. If not, I have a Macan GTS as a backup option 🤣

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by PLF69

From the future model thread

M3 CS: production 03/23 - 02/24, 540hp, automatic, xDrive, standard bucket seats, standard new M specific headlights, also lots of carbon things as standard.

xDrive?!

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

xDrive?!

I'm reserving any opinion until the car is drivable since it could turn out like the M5CS.. a freaking masterpiece.

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by PLF69

I'm reserving any opinion until the car is drivable since it could turn out like the M5CS.. a freaking masterpiece.

Fair, but the M5 was designed as an AWD car from the outset so they simply carried the drivetrain over to the CS.

The M3 platform offers RWD now so it's peculiar that they'd opt for the heavier AWD system for the CS. I'm sure they have their reasons…. perhaps to ensure better model differentiation with the CSL?

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

Fair, but the M5 was designed as an AWD car from the outset so they simply carried the drivetrain over to the CS.

The M3 platform offers RWD now so it's peculiar that they'd opt for the heavier AWD system for the CS. I'm sure they have their reasons…. perhaps to ensure better model differentiation with the CSL?

Correct me if I'm wrong but the G 3series and M model was designed from the start to me AWD too.

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by PLF69

Correct me if I'm wrong but the G 3series and M model was designed from the start to me AWD too.

AWD is an option. It's standard on the M5.

[Ex_Stig]

M5, and M5 CS, both have the ability to drive in 2wd mode so I would assume that the upcoming M3 CS will also have that ability.

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by Ex_Stig

M5, and M5 CS, both have the ability to drive in 2wd mode so I would assume that the upcoming M3 CS will also have that ability.

No doubt!

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

AWD is an option. It's standard on the M5.

Doesn't change what I said/ment

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by PLF69

Doesn't change what I said/ment

There is no option for a RWD M5 so it made sense they would carry over the AWD system to the CS rather than spend money on engineering out the front drive for a limited edition model.

The M3/M4 has both drivetrains in production yet it appears they are choosing the AWD solution for the CS. I would have to expected them to go with the already developed RWD system on the sportier variant. I'm sure they have their reasons (performance, differentiation etc).

[JCZ5]

The AWD and RWD debate is interesting. On one hand, I get the point about weight savings because this is a CS. On the other, the car is already almost 4,000 lbs. I believe RWD is 3,840 lbs and AWD is 3,990 lbs.

Lets say in CS trim BMW manages to reduce by 300 lbs including going RWD, carbon bits, decrease sound deadening, it is still a porky monster...Personally, I rather just keep the AWD along with the CS goodies and just use it as an enhanced daily.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by JCZ5

The AWD and RWD debate is interesting. On one hand, I get the point about weight savings because this is a CS. On the other, the car is already almost 4,000 lbs. I believe RWD is 3,840 lbs and AWD is 3,990 lbs.

Lets say in CS trim BMW manages to reduce by 300 lbs including going RWD, carbon bits, decrease sound deadening, it is still a porky monster...Personally, I rather just keep the AWD along with the CS goodies and just use it as an enhanced daily.

Anyways we will get a good idea of what a RWD CS could of been with the CSL.

I think with the CS they are going ultimate all arounder machine, I see it as the baby M5CS.

[CarbonBlackJack]

Given the current market, it’s a gamble whether you’ll have M3CSs sitting on the lot for months like last time around. If the M2CS and M5CS are any indication, it would seem that people will be grabbing whatever they can. A good amount of speculators are now in the game because there are willing participants who will throwing tens of thousands away over MSRP. Will be interesting to see if potential supply chain improvements and/or an economic downturn play into things…

[JCZ5]

Originally Posted by CarbonBlackJack

Given the current market, it's a gamble whether you'll have M3CSs sitting on the lot for months like last time around. If the M2CS and M5CS are any indication, it would seem that people will be grabbing whatever they can. A good amount of speculators are now in the game because there are willing participants who will throwing tens of thousands away over MSRP. Will be interesting to see if potential supply chain improvements and/or an economic downturn play into things…

I am fairly confident these "limited" vehicles will not be sitting on lots. The past year and half has engrained in us to snatch up what we can especially if it is a desirable car at MSRP. This is also a moment for automakers to reset the ways of working and flip our market into how Europeans have been doing for decades: essentially build to order. From a business perspective this also highly attractive.

Now mainstream brands can get a taste of what exotic brands have been doing for years. And the massive profits they get from this approach.

The M3CS is going to be a huge hit because it will be much more accessible than the M5CS. And as the previous poster mentioned, the M3CS will be a baby M5CS and we all know the huge amount of accolades that car already received.

[CarbonBlackJack]

Originally Posted by JCZ5

I am fairly confident these "limited" vehicles will not be sitting on lots. The past year and half has engrained in us to snatch up what we can especially if it is a desirable car at MSRP. This is also a moment for automakers to reset the ways of working and flip our market into how Europeans have been doing for decades: essentially build to order. From a business perspective this also highly attractive.

Now mainstream brands can get a taste of what exotic brands have been doing for years. And the massive profits they get from this approach.

The M3CS is going to be a huge hit because it will be much more accessible than the M5CS. And as the previous poster mentioned, the M3CS will be a baby M5CS and we all know the huge amount of accolades that car already received.

Tend to agree with this- the market has definitely changed…people already lining up for a Corolla hot hatch! Given what I hear/see going on in the Porsche world as well (the heights of ridiculousness are never ending on allocations and scrambling for builds), think this continues to go that direction. Never a better time to get that M3 Touring here..

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by CarbonBlackJack

Given the current market, it’s a gamble whether you’ll have M3CSs sitting on the lot for months like last time around. If the M2CS and M5CS are any indication, it would seem that people will be grabbing whatever they can. A good amount of speculators are now in the game because there are willing participants who will throwing tens of thousands away over MSRP. Will be interesting to see if potential supply chain improvements and/or an economic downturn play into things…

The only way I see it turning around is if demand goes lower than offer wich will take a lot of time and will be practically impossible if supply issues totally disappear.

Even when they do it will take some time to go back to full lots, lease deals and discounts.

Anyone who wants something new now needs to plan in advance.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by CarbonBlackJack

Given the current market, it's a gamble whether you'll have M3CSs sitting on the lot for months like last time around. If the M2CS and M5CS are any indication, it would seem that people will be grabbing whatever they can.

In the current market, a Honda dealer is hardly having any inventory. With the amount of success BMW had with M2cs and M5cs, there is no doubt that M3cs will be selling like hotcakes and it might be hard to get an allocation on any limited edition vehicle.