[kingikra]

Originally Posted by xxyion

A few channels have done drag races and the Cayman GTS 4.0 is faster in the quarter than the new M2 even being down 50ish hp. Cant really beat the weight of the engine over the rear wheels. My M4 Comp is fast, but in some ways my GT4 felt just as fast even though it was down 100 hp.

My brother's Model Y LR feels faster than my M4 comp

[Berzerker]

Originally Posted by kingikra

My brother's Model Y LR feels faster than my M4 comp

It's the electric. The M440i feels "faster" off the line than any pure ICE car. But once you get 1/4 down the road you'll have any of them pretty easily in the M4.

[Mike02z]

Originally Posted by Berzerker

It's the electric. The M440i feels "faster" off the line than any pure ICE car. But once you get 1/4 down the road you'll have any of them pretty easily in the M4.

Agree. I had a X3 M40i and the B58 felt like it had more grunt down low off the line but it quickly fell off where the S58 has more power at the top end. The M40 could also hold 8th gear climbing a hill where the S58 typically needs to drop into 7th if in auto showing the B58 had more tq down low.

[Higgs Boson]

Originally Posted by Mike02z

Agree. I had a X3 M40i and the B58 felt like it had more grunt down low off the line but it quickly fell off where the S58 has more power at the top end. The M40 could also hold 8th gear climbing a hill where the S58 typically needs to drop into 7th if in auto showing the B58 had more tq down low.

That shows transmission programming in an unempirical environment.

[Jimjamz]

I think we’re being a little harsh on OP.

He asks a reasonable question whether the M1/M2 button is the equivalent of the sport button on a M performance car. It’s not.

If the M button he pressed hadn’t been mapped to sports or sports plus, it would be mapped to efficient and I’d argue a M340i in sport could launch harder than a M3 in efficient mode.

As many of you have pointed out, if the M button is mapped to sports or sports plus throttle we’re all sure he’d get the kick in the back he was after.

[Mike02z]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

I think we’re being a little harsh on OP.

The OP was a troll who was banned 😉

[mirob]

Originally Posted by Jimjamz

I think we’re being a little harsh on OP.

This.

This thread was absolutely not ban-worthy. Some of the guys, myself included, spend a lot of time on here but that can't be expected of everyone. We shouldn't just shun and ban everyone that has a question - new member or not. There are levels to knowledge. When did we get so sensitive and impatient?

['Cane]

Originally Posted by mirob

This.

This thread was absolutely not ban-worthy. Some of the guys, myself included, spend a lot of time on here but that can't be expected of everyone. We shouldn't just shun and ban everyone that has a question - new member or not. There are levels to knowledge. When did we get so sensitive, anyway?

The thread may have not been ban-worthy, but his personal attacks were. The posts are long deleted though, can’t remember exactly what insults he was tossing around, and to who.

[mirob]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

The thread may have not been ban-worthy, but his personal attacks were. The posts are long deleted though, can’t remember exactly what insults he was tossing around, and to who.

Ahhhh. I read through the thread but didn't see anything that stood out. That makes sense then if that stuff was deleted.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

The thread may have not been ban-worthy, but his personal attacks were. The posts are long deleted though, can’t remember exactly what insults he was tossing around, and to who.

Right. He dove right into name calling, which have thankfully been deleted.

[kingikra]

Originally Posted by Berzerker

It's the electric. The M440i feels "faster" off the line than any pure ICE car. But once you get 1/4 down the road you'll have any of them pretty easily in the M4.

I know. It only feels faster but it isn't

[GolfCoyote]

Guys, he’s back at it on Facebook lol

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by GolfCoyote

Guys, he’s back at it on Facebook lol

Desperately looking for validation.

[IDKBRO]

I’m not so sure OP was indeed a troll.

My buddy who has a 23’ M550i got a M440i loaner for a dealer visit and shared with me how he was so impressed with that platform , and enjoyed that car way more than his 5.

So I let him drive my car on the freeway and canyons in hopes he would make the jump for an M4 for the next one.
He tried every single setting possible that we have , with traction off , traction on ,all transmission & sport settings etc.
and he also felt the 440i felt more composed, especially off the line and a better fit for his taste in every way.

So this is in line with what OP was saying.

[Needsdecaf]

Originally Posted by IDKBRO

I’m not so sure OP was indeed a troll.

My buddy who has a 23’ M550i got a M440i loaner for a dealer visit and shared with me how he was so impressed with that platform , and enjoyed that car way more than his 5.

So I let him drive my car on the freeway and canyons in hopes he would make the jump for an M4 for the next one.
He tried every single setting possible that we have , with traction off , traction on ,all transmission & sport settings etc.
and he also felt the 440i felt more composed, especially off the line and a better fit for his taste in every way.

So this is in line with what OP was saying.

It is possible to have an unpopular opinion without being a jacksss about it and resorting to personal attacks when people politely disagree with you. Someone doing that would not be a troll. OP did have something of a valid point.

And then proved himself to be a troll.

[IDKBRO]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

It is possible to have an unpopular opinion without being a jacksss about it and resorting to personal attacks when people politely disagree with you. Someone doing that would not be a troll. OP did have something of a valid point.

And then proved himself to be a troll.

Oh I see now that some comments were wiped so I was unaware lol nvm.

But back to the point , for whatever reason the M440i punches harder at a dig and the shifts felt more crisp according to my friend.
I didn’t get a chance to drive it as he had already returned it.

Either way , I’m not a fan of controlled chaos.
I want the M3 to feel like a monster who wants out of the cage, that’s the whole point. It’s not for everyone.