[Mcf51]

Originally Posted by Seanhfx

LMAO I had a 2021 M340i for 1.5 years before trading it in for a M3 Comp. There is NO COMPARISON between the 2.

Re-read the post.

[Seanhfx]

Originally Posted by Mcf51

Re-read the post.

You are a troll.

Just get a 340 if you don't know how to drive a M3. /end

[Mcf51]

Originally Posted by Seanhfx

You are a troll.

Just get a 340 if you don't know how to drive a M3. /end

So driving an M car requires a special skill set? Did u get ur little feelings hurt because someone doesn’t like ur car?

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by Mcf51

So driving an M car requires a special skill set? Did u get ur little feelings hurt because someone doesn’t like ur car?

No, just knowledge of how cars with larger turbo's work, at lower rpm it won't be as lively as one with smaller turbo's.

[2011ninja]

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[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by forcefed

No, just knowledge of how cars with larger turbo's work, at lower rpm it won't be as lively as one with smaller turbo's.

It’s not just the singular smaller turbo, it’s also the higher compression making up for it. Non-technical car people won’t understand why torque and response won’t be there on the same displacement motor at a lower compression than a higher compression ratio. They also won’t understand why they also can’t throw more boost on it faster and still not get the same down low torque out of it.

It’s really not missing a lot out of it and in all reality a reflash will fix this, but people who don’t know enough won’t always get it. They’ll eventually learn, we all had to start somewhere.

[Skyscraper]

LOL. If you didn’t start karting at 9 you won’t get it.
There are some posts here that do and some that don’t.
Turbo cars suck! You need to know how to drive to make them work.
NA all day for a true track car!!!!!

[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by forcefed

No, just knowledge of how cars with larger turbo's work, at lower rpm it won't be as lively as one with smaller turbo's.

Hey did you come over from the F-body/Corvette world? Your username reminds me of one of the old LS1tech guys.

[forcefed]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

Hey did you come over from the F-body/Corvette world? Your username reminds me of one of the old LS1tech guys.

Nope

[M4Lou]

Originally Posted by brava09

Peak torque comes only at 2.7k rpm, so yeah, it feels sluggish below that, but man, the way it pulls up to redline is another world.

Try this from a dig: left foot on brake pedal, push the throttle pedal hard and when rpm goes at 3k lift your left foot and hang on for dear life

Yeah, that's the whole point. The s58 makes insane torque at 3k rpm. There is no lag. You guys do the launch control/race mode? It makes big power off the line.

[kgelfen360]

OP troll account. I don’t even know what’s there to discuss….

['Cane]

[jmg]

Lol mods should do an IP match. Probably a salty M340i forum member. I'm currently in an i4 M50i loaner and it accelerates like a freight train. 0-60 in 3.3s. 0-60 is a meaningless metric now, almost any car can put the prev gen M3 to shame. (The F80 0-60 was 4.2 seconds). The M340i is going to be fast, that's no question, but it's not going to out M a real M car. There's a lot of engineering between these cars, and it's not about 0-60.

[Juanero]

my m3comp xdrive in rwd mode will smoke the rear tyres with all TC off. the pirellis it comes with are a lot stickier than I've given them credit for in the past. it's downright silly amount of power and I'm surprised there aren't more yt vids of m3s wrecking out. lol

[Forzanerazzurri]

What an odd thing to troll about

[SwankPeRFection]

Originally Posted by Juanero

my m3comp xdrive in rwd mode will smoke the rear tyres with all TC off. the pirellis it comes with are a lot stickier than I've given them credit for in the past. it's downright silly amount of power and I'm surprised there aren't more yt vids of m3s wrecking out. lol

This new gen of M3/4 cars is a bit more forgiving in the handling department than previous gen cars are.

[TJR_///M3]

Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

I mean techincaly MDM is a different level of TC.

I think one of the problems encountered in a lot of these discussions is that people use the term traction differently. More than a few people use it to describe the level of grip that the vehicle has both longitudinally and laterally.
Technically, or in engineering terms, traction is the ability to transmit torque to the road surface. Traction control limits how much faster the driven wheels are allowed to turn relative to the forward speed of the vehicle.
DSC and its subset MDM not only considers ability to transmit drive torque to the surface but also yaw angle and yaw rate.
You can achieve high yaw rates and yaw angle with zero wheel spin (e.g. aggressive turn-in on low mu surface. DSC may intervene to control this but is not controlling wheel spin i.e. no traction control.
Of course, the control mechanisms for traction control and DSC are essentially the same - that is engine torque reduction if throttle is being applied and/or selective by wheel brake applications.

I should check, but am I correct in thinking that the variable traction control can only be adjusted when DSC and MDM are off?

[Humdizzle]

OP probably going to buy a m340i....then make a post complaining about how the B58 runs out steam at the top end and guys in M3s are destroying him on a roll races and track days.

The M3 comp runs the same 5-60mph time as the S55 M3. And its 30-50 and 50-70mph time in 6th gear is slower than the N55 M2. Just the nature of the beast. The motor / turbos were designed for high rpm use on track.

[kingikra]

This discussion is aready over (OP got banned :-)) but I didn't see any comment about off the line between a RWD rear engine (911) and a RWD front engine.
I do not think it is comparable. My former Cayman S (mid engine) felt of the like some of my AWD cars.

Did he mentioned somewhere that the M30 was a rear wheel drive? Maybe I have missed that.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

Try with the following settings:
Engine: Sport plus
Transmission: S3
DSC: off
Chassis 4WD
Suspension: Comfort

Stomp the brakes, push the throttle hard to the floor, launch control will prep, side step the brake and you’ll rocket off the line. If you’re in an X-drive version you’ll do 0-60 in ~3.0 seconds and a low 11 second quarter at 122-124mph.

And pray not to lost control and hit the light poles lol

[xxyion]

Originally Posted by kingikra

This discussion is aready over (OP got banned :-)) but I didn't see any comment about off the line between a RWD rear engine (911) and a RWD front engine.
I do not think it is comparable. My former Cayman S (mid engine) felt of the like some of my AWD cars.

Did he mentioned somewhere that the M30 was a rear wheel drive? Maybe I have missed that.

A few channels have done drag races and the Cayman GTS 4.0 is faster in the quarter than the new M2 even being down 50ish hp. Cant really beat the weight of the engine over the rear wheels. My M4 Comp is fast, but in some ways my GT4 felt just as fast even though it was down 100 hp.

[Needsdecaf]

OP's original post is a classic example of going in with too many expectations and then trying to rationalize when those expectations aren't met.