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      12-23-2023, 07:01 PM   #23
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Thanks everyone for the responses. I guess my question is, is a rwd automatic ‘capable’ of smoking the rear tires from a stand still by just punching the gas? Not that I want to do this often but maybe occasional I just want to blow off some steam!! If so, what settings would permit this type of juvenile (lol) behavior. Thanks!!!
turn off the traction control and floor it, even in efficient mode it will blow the tires off.
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turn off the traction control and floor it, even in efficient mode it will blow the tires off.
Thank you. Thats all I wanted to know. Something must have been off on the one I was driving. Also - a couple times when accelerating and letting off gas a little the car shook back and forth pretty violently. The salesman said it was because I wasn’t smooth on the throttle. Does that sound right??
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Also - a couple times when accelerating and letting off gas a little the car shook back and forth pretty violently. The salesman said it was because I wasn’t smooth on the throttle. Does that sound right??

What? No, lol, find a different CA and a different M3.
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What? No, lol, find a different CA and a different M3.
Agree!! Thanks.
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So DTC off
Will allow wheel spin and DSC on Will
Stop car from sliding sideways correct? What about DTC on and DSC off - is that even possible. Not sure how u could have wheel slip with DTC on.
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So DTC off
Will allow wheel spin and DSC on Will
Stop car from sliding sideways correct? What about DTC on and DSC off - is that even possible. Not sure how u could have wheel slip with DTC on.
Not trying to be too judgemental here but I am getting the impression you aren't ready for this car. If you are that insistent why not Google a manual for this car download it and read it. It'll have all your answers there including all the modes and what the safety features do.
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Not trying to be too judgemental here but I am getting the impression you aren't ready for this car. If you are that insistent why not Google a manual for this car download it and read it. It'll have all your answers there including all the modes and what the safety features do.
Yeah. I’m not ready. I’m just too interested in learning as much as I can before I plop down $90k in cash. Sorry. Ignorance isn’t always bliss. .
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Yeah. I’m not ready. I’m just too interested in learning as much as I can before I plop down $90k in cash. Sorry. Ignorance isn’t always bliss. .
M mode, turn off or turn down the TC. If someone had turned that all the way up it'll really cause the car to bog off the line.
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Peak torque comes only at 2.7k rpm, so yeah, it feels sluggish below that, but man, the way it pulls up to redline is another world.

Try this from a dig: left foot on brake pedal, push the throttle pedal hard and when rpm goes at 3k lift your left foot and hang on for dear life
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OK, let me be the one to ask what should be asked. What car do you currently drive? That’ll help shed some light on some of the stuff you’re saying.
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M mode, turn off or turn down the TC. If someone had turned that all the way up it'll really cause the car to bog off the line.
Thanks. Are there levels??? I thought it was on off. I agree if it was at a ‘max’ setting that would def kill power off line. I’d like the option to put it at about 50% to have fun but also be safe.
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Thanks. Are there levels??? I thought it was on off. I agree if it was at a ‘max’ setting that would def kill power off line. I’d like the option to put it at about 50% to have fun but also be safe.
There are only differing levels of TC if it has the M Drive Pro package.
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There are only differing levels of TC if it has the M Drive Pro package.
I mean techincaly MDM is a different level of TC.
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I saw a dyno test that was run in sport+ and efficient and the efficient mode produced more horsepower. Interestingly, I always felt my M4 Comp X pulled harder when I was in efficient although throttle response was snappier in sport+.
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I mean techincaly MDM is a different level of TC.
They really all should come with that granular level of TC in all honesty. Setting the level to a level of slip the driver is comfortable with is much better than the predetermined levels they have on the base TC in any of the drive modes. There are times someone might want to run in a higher mode but dial up TC to near max and the different drive modes don’t allow for this. It’s a stupid way to make $900 on something that’s already there software wise, just not unlocked.
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If you’re looking for “shove in the seat” get the xdrive version. Doesn’t take much to have it launch a 0-60 in the mid 2’s. Kid approved
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What? No, lol, find a different CA and a different M3.
This is actually a thing. If your foot position isn't correct, in D3/S3, the more "jerky" shifts can case your foot to not move correctly in relation to the car shifting, causing you to go back and forth on the throttle, which then causes more jerky accelerations and decelerations.

I remember this happening to me in the early days of sport car driving, you learn to adjust your foot pressure though, but it is definitely a thing for those who aren't used to this kind of power.
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A couple weeks ago I drove a M340i. It was fun. Put it in sport mode and even with traction control on it was spin the tires and torque was great off the line. No noticeable turbo lag. Today drove a 2021 M3 comp. Both autos. Going from 20mph and up the car was crazy. From a stop it just wasn’t there. Severe lag up to about 10mph. I put it in M mode. Was it possible there was another setting I needed to put it in? The torque from stand still was much less than the m340 I and a 2017 911. All auto. The M3 is the most powerful but least aggressive off the line. The 340i and 911 both had a physical sport button. I assumed the M button on the m3 was the same. Does the g80 have a sport option to keep the turbos spinning at idle (like a waste gate valve or something). Wanted to love the car but I need some push agains the seat feeling from a dead stop. Thanks.
LMAO I had a 2021 M340i for 1.5 years before trading it in for a M3 Comp. There is NO COMPARISON between the 2.
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Lots of good comments from some. The M3/4 is going to have more turbo lag unless you use the launch control.

But you can do better as a driver and not treat the throttle like an on/off switch.
The CA was not wrong. You need to roll into it and feel the car pull.
When you just open the throttle all the way befor there is any air moving it creates more lag. When you feed the engine the correct amount of air for the rpm and boost it rewards you.

To chime in on the twin scroll information. There were a couple correct posts. It’s a split housing to separate the exhaust pulses blowing the fan. But for that split housing to really work 100% the header leading to the turbo should have equal length runners on all cylinders. I’m not convinced all manufacturers do this. I had to buy custom $4k headers to run a GT35R twin scroll on my 930. Twin turbos are easier to accomplish what a twin scroll can do with a perfect header.
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