[Patton250]

Originally Posted by PLife

Heres some runs at 84 degrees F very high humidity (dragy gps is wrong car was showing 87F DA is prob 3000+). Jb4 map 1 without LC (didnt know u needed to be in manual mode and the car wouldnt give it to me). Car is x drive with 1k miles did break in service early.

I forget but what does map 1 do to the vehicle? I sure would love to see numbers with the vehicle just stock. Either way I appreciate you posting whatever you have.

[PLife]

Originally Posted by Patton250

I forget but what does map 1 do to the vehicle? I sure would love to see numbers with the vehicle just stock. Either way I appreciate you posting whatever you have.

+3psi. More to come. This will be a 10 sec car soon no question. Just having fun dicking around with it

Under perfect conditions this may run 10.9-11 stock, but i want it to be able to just flick off a 10 on the street with break torquing on whatever surface… you know, real world 10s car

[Herakles]

M3 with awd is awesome what I always dreamed for!

Makes you forget they even make the m340, well not entirely being the awd m3 is 80k and the m340 is 65k 🙃😔

[Herakles]

Originally Posted by MiamiFan13

Who cares if it doesn't run 10's...on a cooler day at sea level it'll run 11.15 with either you or my grandmother driving...still fast as fvck. Even still....I'd rather bang my own gears and run 11.50's all day.

I know right ! What are people expecting , the 911 turbo s runs 10s out of the box and it's $250k!!

[Avaley]

Originally Posted by PLife

+3psi. More to come. This will be a 10 sec car soon no question. Just having fun dicking around with it

Under perfect conditions this may run 10.9-11 stock, but i want it to be able to just flick off a 10 on the street with break torquing on whatever surface… you know, real world 10s car

More aggressive map from JB4 or a ECU tune and imo its EZPZ regular in the 10s.

I think once stage 2 downpipes and e85 gets introduced this car is doing low 10s.

[SeanWRT]

Originally Posted by ChargerHellcat

That’s hilarious. I doubt this guy has even broken this car. I think he literally just took delivery last week. That’s a great time.

This video shows a 9.53s for 60-130, which roughly translates to 8.5s for 100-200kph.

That could be 0.5s slower than the RWD model.

[PLife]

I believe this guy was also running 285/305 with aftermarket wheels which could have hurt the rolling acceleration, but i do think the rwd is slightly faster on a roll. Possibly 0.5 sec not sure tho.

[PeregrineFalcon]

Originally Posted by SeanWRT

This video shows a 9.53s for 60-130, which roughly translates to 8.5s for 100-200kph.

That could be 0.5s slower than the RWD model.

If you look at this video, the times for the 60-130mph are almost identical or very close between RWD and AWD.

[sleepdoc]

Any noticeable differences in 60-130 etc are likely going to be due to DA conditions, slope, tailwind etc.

The only "real" way to test is same day, basically same time, same stretch of road, same driver. Then I believe you can make a fairly accurate assessment of RWD vs Xdrive in regards to roll race quickness and trap speed.

Don't see that happening, but sure would be nice..

[JRock80]

Killer performance!

[M3AWD]

Originally Posted by sleepdoc

Any noticeable differences in 60-130 etc are likely going to be due to DA conditions, slope, tailwind etc.

The only "real" way to test is same day, basically same time, same stretch of road, same driver. Then I believe you can make a fairly accurate assessment of RWD vs Xdrive in regards to roll race quickness and trap speed.

Don't see that happening, but sure would be nice..

Trust me we'll see it happening in a month or two once Matt Watson (carwow) gets his hands on an AWD G8x... He already has a RWD G80 long term tester so it's only a matter of time at this point

[Patton250]

Originally Posted by sleepdoc

Any noticeable differences in 60-130 etc are likely going to be due to DA conditions, slope, tailwind etc.

The only "real" way to test is same day, basically same time, same stretch of road, same driver. Then I believe you can make a fairly accurate assessment of RWD vs Xdrive in regards to roll race quickness and trap speed.

Don't see that happening, but sure would be nice..

I can’t think of any reason why they wouldn’t be identical in a roll race. The weight difference is so minimal the only way it could be an impact would be to make sure both drivers were the exact way, both cars had the exact level of gas and the build sheet was identical on both vehicles. Then for sure physics would take over and the added weight of the xdrive would be a factor assuming both engines were exactly the same HP.

[MazzaBL]

Originally Posted by Patton250

I can’t think of any reason why they wouldn’t be identical in a roll race. The weight difference is so minimal the only way it could be an impact would be to make sure both drivers were the exact way, both cars had the exact level of gas and the build sheet was identical on both vehicles. Then for sure physics would take over and the added weight of the xdrive would be a factor assuming both engines were exactly the same HP.

What's the weight difference between Xdrive and RWD?

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by MazzaBL

What's the weight difference between Xdrive and RWD?

less than 100lbs

[M3AWD]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

less than 100lbs

If I'm not mistaken BMW quoted 50kg in one of their videos which is closer to 110lbs.

[diavliyo]

50kg

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by M3AWD

If I'm not mistaken BMW quoted 50kg in one of their videos which is closer to 110lbs.

I'll double check but the EU weights are always different than US weights

edit: M3 Comp is 3890lbs M3 Comp AWD is 3990lbs
M3 (6MT) is 3840lbs so there you go


M4 Comp AWD 3979lbs, M4 Comp 3880bs, M4 (6MT) 3830lbs

[M3AWD]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

I'll double check but the EU weights are always different than US weights

I understand and I didn't look up this vs. that in EU or US Spec, but what I remember is BMW answering on Instagram that the AWD system adds 50kg to the car... I think that doesn't change from EU to US, but let us know what you find out.

[AndroidRobot]

Originally Posted by M3AWD

I understand and I didn't look up this vs. that in EU or US Spec, but what I remember is BMW answering on Instagram that the AWD system adds 50kg to the car... I think that doesn't change from EU to US, but let us know what you find out.

check above, I got the weights from their press releases

[KevinMO91]

Originally Posted by AndroidRobot

I'll double check but the EU weights are always different than US weights

edit: M3 Comp is 3890lbs M3 Comp AWD is 3990lbs
M3 (6MT) is 3840lbs so there you go


M4 Comp AWD 3979lbs, M4 Comp 3880bs, M4 (6MT) 3830lbs

How accurate are these weights? There is an article (too lazy to Google and link) that says the g80 actually weighs 3700 pounds and that the weight advertised by BMW includes a 150 pound driver and 10 pound suitcase. Which would bring it close to what is advertised.

I mean the car being slightly lighter then advertised might also help to explain why the car appears much faster then it should be besides the typical underrated power. I mean every 100 pounds is equal to about 10hp and .1 in a 1/4 mile.

[pikcachu]

Looks like they got 2.9

Damn look at the Model S fly by. Nuts

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by KevinMO91

How accurate are these weights? There is an article (too lazy to Google and link) that says the g80 actually weighs 3700 pounds and that the weight advertised by BMW includes a 150 pound driver and 10 pound suitcase. Which would bring it close to what is advertised.

I mean the car being slightly lighter then advertised might also help to explain why the car appears much faster then it should be besides the typical underrated power. I mean every 100 pounds is equal to about 10hp and .1 in a 1/4 mile.

You're correct that vehicle weights are subject to a number of variables (the driver + cargo weights are a European standard), and there's no one single, universally-agreed upon way to measure that. However, I think it's reasonable to assume that BMW's official press releases rely on a consistent testing procedure across models. So even if you put your M3 on scales and it measures a different number than what you see listed, when comparing relative weights between models/specs from the official figures, I think it's fair to assume the reported deltas are accurate.