[Limegrntaln]

Only BMW could spec the non laser lights on a CSL, call them special, and up charge the cost over what the Lasers cost.

[NightWriter]

In anticipation of the inevitable "Can I DD my CSL in winter?"...

Yes:

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Only BMW could spec the non laser lights on a CSL, call them special, and up charge the cost over what the Lasers cost.

They probably weigh 60 grams less. Porsche would charge $15k for this kind of performance.

[JTO24]

Looks like a Ti exhaust, too.

[JustChris]

It is EXCELLENT to see the flagship cars coming out much earlier in the lifecycle.

I always felt the owners paying the most had the car 6 months before a platform change.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

The new design of the CF seats at quick glance has the same front grill design language with the large open air ducts and limited horizontal slants.

Yeah i hope they get rid of the carbon piece in the middle of the seats, that was a big reason i never took the plunge on the M5 CS. The seat gets much more comfortable if its not channeling your legs.

As long as we aren't forced to have a rollcage in the U.S. (like we were with the M4 GTS), then i'm all in.

Also looks like there is decent enough ground clearance to use the car every day on street.

[2022M4COMP]

Lmao at the non laser lights. It the KITH all over again

[GOLFFRR]

nice pic drop update.
the trunk

[Limegrntaln]

Im going to go out on a limb, and guess that if the trunk has that much of a kick to it, without the use of a wing, that the entire trunk is probably carbon, and it should also go without saying, that the hood is probably carbon, as well.

[Poochie]

WoW, putting a CSL badge on that land yacht is oxymoronic and antithetical to what it's suppose to mean..

But the fact of the matter is they'll sell every single unit 'cause consumers are vain and have more money than brains.. That has been proven this past year when I heard of folks paying up to $30,000 market adjustment for a Chevy because they want what they want and now!

So, don't blame BMW; when you find a donkey, you ride that ass - all the way to the bank.. 😉

[EXE46]

Originally Posted by Poochie

WoW, putting a CSL badge on that land yacht is oxymoronic and antithetical to what it's suppose to mean..

But the fact of the matter is they'll sell every single unit 'cause consumers are vain and have more money than brains.. That has been proven this year when I heard of folks paying up to $30,000 market adjustment for a Chevy because they want what they want and now!

So, don't blame BMW; when you find a donkey, you ride that ass - all the way to the bank.. 😉

[j23]

Coupe Sport "Lightweight" at what… 3,800 lbs?

[Chihuahua]

Originally Posted by Poochie

WoW, putting a CSL badge on that land yacht is oxymoronic and antithetical to what it's suppose to mean..

But the fact of the matter is they'll sell every single unit 'cause consumers are vain and have more money than brains.. That has been proven this year when I heard of folks paying up to $30,000 market adjustment for a Chevy because they want what they want and now!

So, don't blame BMW; when you find a donkey, you ride that ass - all the way to the bank.. 😉

Originally Posted by j23

Coupe Sport "Lightweight" at what… 3,800 lbs?

It is comical, isn't it? But I'm sure people will snap them up faster than BMW can build them. Gotta one-up the guy next to you.

[Chicane_]

We don't even know the final specs but haters are already hating. Good grief :

[RAUDERRIPPER]

"…. Ummmmm if it doesn't weigh anything near 2800 lbs *scoff scoff scoff* are you kidding??? L0Lz! I've owned… IS this a Joke??"

[mfarrzhp]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

We don't even know the final specs but haters are already hating. Good grief :

Of course. They want more tech, bigger/wider wheels and tires and more comfort on rough roads, but why is it heavier?

They stripped I think almost 200 lbs on the M5 CS? I'd have to imagine they can drop nearly 300 with a rear seat delete and other weight savings on a CSL.

[Connors5453]

Originally Posted by JTO24

Looks like a Ti exhaust, too.

Looks like it!

[ScullyD]

I love all the negativity on price and features about BMW special edition cars. Its a bimmerpost tradition.

There should be a place on BP to memorialize all the negative internet posts about the e46 M3 CSL, M2 CS, M5 CS, and this car. Keep em coming.

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

I love all the negativity on price and features about BMW special edition cars. Its a bimmerpost tradition.

There should be a place on BP to memorialize all the negative internet posts about the e46 M3 CSL, M2 CS, M5 CS, and this car. Keep em coming.

I was thinking the same thing. If anything, the last few years should have taught us not to underestimate the M division and as BMW enthusiasts, we should be celebrating their achievements rather than disparaging their efforts. Lots of armchair engineers and executives on these forums but very few actually understand the legislative and commercial constraints facing these companies.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

I was thinking the same thing. If anything, the last few years should have taught us not to underestimate the M division and as BMW enthusiasts, we should be celebrating their achievements rather than disparaging their efforts. Lots of armchair engineers and executives on these forums but very few actually understand the legislative and commercial constraints facing these companies.

I think the only problem this car has is that the bar is so high based on the G80 M3/M4, M5 CS and M2 CS, can it live up to the hype. Expectations were lower on those cars and they blew people away. Expectations on this car are really high, and the exterior and interior design aren't disappointing. So now it's up to the driving experience to be on par or better than the last set of these cars.

But it should be compared to recent cars and not the e46 M3 CSL (which wasn't considered that good during its own time, but is now a standard that is used to disparage recent M cars).

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

I think the only problem this car has is that the bar is so high based on the G80 M3/M4, M5 CS and M2 CS, can it live up to the hype. Expectations were lower on those cars and they blew people away. Expectations on this car are really high, and the exterior and interior design aren't disappointing. So now it's up to the driving experience to be on par or better than the last set of these cars.

I have faith. I actually just sold my M2 CS in part because I found the car to be less exciting to drive compared with my M4 GTS. I'll be happy if the CSL is a modern GTS (which I think it will be).

[Poochie]

Originally Posted by ScullyD

I love all the negativity on price and features about BMW special edition cars. Its a bimmerpost tradition.

There should be a place on BP to memorialize all the negative internet posts about the e46 M3 CSL, M2 CS, M5 CS, and this car. Keep em coming.

Having an opinion that you might not agree with is not "hating."

I actually like the seats and grill but for something that suppose to be a "street legal racecar" when all they did is decontented an M4, double the price and make some bespoke cosmetic changes, doesn't pass the smell test, at least for me.

But hey, no beef, if that's your cup of tea, more M power to you. 👍🏻