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      09-08-2020, 02:05 PM   #89
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2019 sales in US.

Lexus - 298,112
Bmw - 324,826

Maybe us loyalists won't be buying them but perhaps they are not stupid either?
Fixed.
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      09-08-2020, 02:13 PM   #90
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....is this a photochop? This is only picture of this prototype ?
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If you think the M8 looks like Mustang you need your eyes examined stat ‼️
Or the other way.....
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      09-08-2020, 02:23 PM   #92
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Did you..... just include the sales of Toyota in that Lexus number?

Here let me fix that for you:
2019 sales in US:

Lexus - 298,114
BMW - 324,826
Yep, my bad. I'm out of ideas then lol.
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      09-08-2020, 02:32 PM   #93
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If it's a CS/CSL/GTS one thing is for sure it's going to be mental performance wise, I think they have decided to banzai the competition in terms of performance and design both will be to the max.

But of course the looks are subjective and M car buyers have always been more about the drive than the on paper stats and look at me design, but what they may lose in one hand they must figure they will gain more on the other.

Certainly interesting and bold.
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      09-08-2020, 02:35 PM   #94
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first the grill and now the rear! lol going crazy over there at BMW design
I am gonna cut the designer 's nuts!!!
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      09-08-2020, 03:02 PM   #95
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If you think the M8 looks like Mustang you need your eyes examined stat ‼️
Or the other way.....
Clearly you'll know absolutely nothing about automobile design or form language

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This is a m4 with the M Performance parts..
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      09-08-2020, 03:10 PM   #97
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New M4 GTS? CSL?

Exhaust opinion??

Spotted by Misha (IG) on the Autobahn.
Why seriously why?
It's looking so boy racer - not really that appealing.

Ahhh well, Covid 19, brexit, lockdown, trump, economy falling apart, maybe the designers were the same ones that were designing massive aluminium spoilers for the FWD toyota tercels back in the day. Maybe LSD was part of their design culture.

2020 is not a year I wish to remember.

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      09-08-2020, 03:10 PM   #98
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This can‘t be real. Whats the point of this awkward positioning of the exhaust tips? What are they thinking? Beaver grill, „mustang like“ hood design and now this?
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Why not just slap the humongous grill on the back also and call it a day..
Thanks for ruining a generation of 4 series BMW..
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      09-08-2020, 03:24 PM   #100
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I think they are trying to say..you think the original e65 was a bad design and the e60 was the worst looking 5...wait till we have our way on the 3/4 series... I think the former e53/Mclaren designer laid it out best... There's so much design conflict going on with the 4 series..
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      09-08-2020, 03:37 PM   #101
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How can we copy Lexus some more and alienate our customers further 🤔

...Hold my beer 🤡
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Clearly you'll know absolutely nothing about automobile design or form language

Many can see some of the same designlines on these two cars.
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I think they are trying to say..you think the original e65 was a bad design and the e60 was the worst looking 5...wait till we have our way on the 3/4 series... I think the former e53/Mclaren designer laid it out best... There's so much design conflict going on with the 4 series..
The E60 LCI is an awesome 5 series, very agile and light on it’s feet, excellent steering feel, great engines and a gazillion times more interesting and appealing design than the boring and isolated F10 and G30 that followed.
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      09-08-2020, 03:58 PM   #104
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      09-08-2020, 03:59 PM   #105
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GTS is a wild car, it can have a more wild look, IMO.

The only F82-GTS cars that I have seen, had bright orange wheels and a huge wing on the back, not sure why people are freaking out....
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Looks to me that they are making statements that they no longer want to be a brand that is stuck in the past including not being a brand for people stuck in the past. They want to be free to move forward and cater to those who are ready to follow.
Would be nice and I believe that many would welcome that. The problem is they are trying to do this via the ugly road. When they don't want to be stuck in the past, they better launch some EV innovations.
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      09-08-2020, 04:11 PM   #107
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The E60 LCI is an awesome 5 series, very agile and light on it’s feet, excellent steering feel, great engines and a gazillion times more interesting and appealing design than the boring and isolated F10 and G30 that followed.
Oh, 100% agreed.. the E60 is gorgeous to me.. specially the LCI.. I found it to be the right mix of curves and German business sedan look. but apparently all paid reviewers hated it...

Currently I have an F10 so I'm biased but I had the e60 535xi and even an e60 550i..loved both!!
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And when you couldn't make it any worse...you go and redeem yourself by making the rear hideous!

What is going on with designers
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Clearly you'll know absolutely nothing about automobile design or form language

Many can see some of the same designlines on these two cars.
Sure sure sure

Both 2 doors with great designs... But the M8 and the Mustang are very different cars
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