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      03-04-2020, 03:53 AM   #243
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It looks sharp and well packaged to me. A lot of potential IMO. And I like it a little more watching all you whine about it.

You cry babies have been bitching about every new M model, if not every new BMW design in general, since the e60. It happens every. fucking. time. You guys do realize this right? In a couple years half of you will own one and totally forget how much you hated it at first. People don't like change, we get it. The f80/82 is what we picture when we think new m3/4, and they've grown on us and in our minds over the years and look so great, it's hard to imagine such a radical change to it. But it's progress forward. The designers don't just pull this out of their ass and run with it. They make prototypes, full clay models, dozens of variants and stare at them for hours from every angle to ensure they feel right. I guarantee a few months after the official release, once the shock factor wears off and the design starts to sink and grow on you, almost all of you will come around. Just like last time. And the time before that.


If enthusiasts had it our way we would rarely change shit and every new BMW would still look like an e30. And while that would actually be pretty sick (see?), BMW would've went bankrupt by 1996 with that strategy and we wouldn't have anything. So deal with it, open your mind, and put a little faith in the designers at BMW because IMO as stupid or crazy as anything's ever been at first, it's always worked out especially for the M3/4/5. Hell I even the bangled ass e60 M5 ended up not being so bad in the end :rofl
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They will look the same
From what I have seen, the grills are different. The shape and size are slightly different and the bumpers are different. To me the M3 is appealing but not great, but the M4 isn’t.
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From what I have seen, the grills are different. The shape and size are slightly different and the bumpers are different. To me the M3 is appealing but not great, but the M4 isnít.
The same front end will be shared across both models. The only styling differences that weíll see in the production cars will be between the base model and the Competition model.
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I'm very disappointed to say, no desire here to buy the new M3/M4 with this face.

Paid up for new on E92, F80 and F87 but those cars had great looks and proportions = mad showroom pull.
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So glad I managed to find a new one of these and snag it a week ago. That thing is hideous!!
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And presumably the number plate goes right in the middle rather than the side like Alfa's do?
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The problem is, 90%< of owners just get these cars as daily drivers and don't track them. So their primary focus is appearance. Which this car is severely lacking.
Where did you get that 90% figure from? It might be better to just say something like "I'm willing to bet that the majority of m3 owners don't track their cars." This way you're not using definitive figures without reference, and you don't have to worry about using the inequality sign incorrectly.
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So glad I managed to find a new one of these and snag it a week ago. That thing is hideous!!
Congrats! Nice car. It's premature to call the g80 hideous though, since you haven't seen a finished production example yet.
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What a ridiculous statement. Many of us actually like the thing and the vast majority of those obsessed with criticizing it will own one over the 5-6 year life cycle.

I read a lot of hate towards a car yet to be revealed and ignore it all but to state the people who designed it are "100% not proud of it" is the worst kind of hysterics I have ever seen on this forum.
I don't know what your definition of many is, but you must be getting your estimates from another forum.

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From my recent M4 Preview.
The remarkable thing is that presence is in abundance.
People always said that M cars were too tame. With the new 4 there was more opportunities to bring the appearance to a new era.

When you see both M3 and M4 you will see how more radical these cars are in regards to proportion, stance and in case of the M4 it's more dynamic profile allowing for its inclusion for Motorsport.
Definitely M4 has more muscle than a conventional M440i Coupe.

The new Aerodynmics offer a new interpretation of the current look that has been around for almost two decades. Again highly sculpted to provide function over form.

The new exclusive to the M3/M4 hood symbolises Motorsport history especially with Coupes adapted for Motorsport such as the E9,E30 and E24. The lines recessed at the top of the grille allows the bonnet to be higher when it runs along the centre of the car without resorting to a power dome.

The competition Wheel design was shown in a recent spy photograph of the M3.

Both M3 and M4 will cater to more performance and aerodyanmic appearance down the line of this generation.

The problem is, 90%< of owners just get these cars as daily drivers and don't track them. So their primary focus is appearance. Which this car is severely lacking.
Where did you get that 90% figure from? It might be better to just say something like "I'm willing to bet that the majority of m3 owners don't track their cars." This way you're not using definitive figures without reference, and you don't have to worry about using the inequality sign incorrectly.
Here >90%. Since that's what you're focused on in this entire thread.

There are no definitive statistics for something this specific. But it doesn't take a genius to extrapolate:

1- it's a 4 door sedan with almost as many convenience features as an S class.

2- it's meant for the road first, track second.

3- even those that do track it, most go once or twice a year average. Still not justifying a hideous car.

4- its competitors are the RS4/5, C63, Quadrifoglio.

5- other competitors managed to design beautiful cars while focusing on performance, including BMW (M8).

6- owners that track their cars are commonly enthusiasts, which are most likely forum members. So you can most likely gauge the percentage of owners that track the car just from this forum.

7- if you like the design, that's great. But most on here do not and you need to respect that. If you don't want negative feedback then don't post shit on a PUBLIC forum.
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Reserving a perspective until the production model makes its debut. Until then.
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It looks sharp and well packaged to me. A lot of potential IMO. And I like it a little more watching all you whine about it.

You cry babies have been bitching about every new M model, if not every new BMW design in general, since the e60. It happens every. fucking. time. You guys do realize this right? In a couple years half of you will own one and totally forget how much you hated it at first. People don't like change, we get it. The f80/82 is what we picture when we think new m3/4, and they've grown on us and in our minds over the years and look so great, it's hard to imagine such a radical change to it. But it's progress forward. The designers don't just pull this out of their ass and run with it. They make prototypes, full clay models, dozens of variants and stare at them for hours from every angle to ensure they feel right. I guarantee a few months after the official release, once the shock factor wears off and the design starts to sink and grow on you, almost all of you will come around. Just like last time. And the time before that.


If enthusiasts had it our way we would rarely change shit and every new BMW would still look like an e30. And while that would actually be pretty sick (see?), BMW would've went bankrupt by 1996 with that strategy and we wouldn't have anything. So deal with it, open your mind, and put a little faith in the designers at BMW because IMO as stupid or crazy as anything's ever been at first, it's always worked out especially for the M3/4/5. Hell I even the bangled ass e60 M5 ended up not being so bad in the end :rofl
Look bro I'm pretty certain most of us already know there is a protocol for the design elements of these cars and cars in general so no need for the redundancy. We have the right to express we think it's terrible despite what opinion you may have so let us have ours.
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While I really hate the new look, I suspect we'll get used to the big grill. When did Audi move to the big schnoz...2007? I remember hating it initially then somehow owned a 2013 S4.
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This looks so bad lol
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I think the F80 and F82 are among the most beautiful of cars ever designed.

I've never liked large grills. I've hated the Lexus grill for years. I've hated Toyota grills. Don't care for Audi grills. Yuck. It's an unsightly fashion trend. Like platform shoes for women - how did they ever get popular again? Designers can lose their way. It happened to Jony Ive from Apple - it can certainly happen to BMW.

I've not been happy with the growing grills of the X3/5/7, but they grew moderately. So I can live with it (I have an X3 M40i).

My initial reaction when seeing this G80/G82 grill is horror and disgust. BMW taking design cues from the cars I hate most?

Perhaps the license plate stuck over the middle of the giant grill will mitigate it. Perhaps the official production version will be better. Perhaps I'll grow to like it.
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I think the look will definitely grow on people, like most new BMW's. Also, depending on colour it could actually look really good.

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