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      03-03-2020, 10:29 AM   #45
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Being charitable it is bold, clearly the full M version (not the other M formerly known as M Performance) with the inverted lower bumper. Need to see better image of the whole car which should be pretty soon.
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Thanks to F80NJM3 for sharing this. I can certainly believe this is the to-market production form of the G8x.

I'll comment to say that when the F80 leaks first started in earnest, with close to final form photos, it was an instant winner. A car that you're trying to get me to part with close to six figures for isn't something that one should have to warm up to.

There's an intangible quality, a certain je nais se quoi if you will, that most enthusiasts want if taking the depreciation hit to buy new. It's simple too, a car either has it, or does not. Prime example, the Carrera GT. It's not a 911, it's not a boxster - but man does it look right. Similar feeling to the MB GT's - they're unique but in a tasteful way that harkens back to the reserved aggression of the gullwings.

But on the other side of the coin you have the Gen 2 R8 - a good looking car, but something about it just doesn't have the presence that the Gen 1 brings to the table. And a more extreme example, the i8. Some liked it, many more hated it, very very few LOVED it. The buzz was 'it's futuristic, it'll grow on you'. Then we all saw the 30k off MSRP and sub-1,000 lease deals that BMW needed to put on the trunk to move them.

I thought the Alfa was far far behind the F80 in pure looks, but somehow without Alfa changing a thing, it's likely to be the best looking in the segment for the next 3-4 years.

Where's the new E39 or E90 type cars? The one that's refined, tasteful, but in M trim is finished with just the right amount of anger and rage? The F80 was less restrained than the E9 cars, and may go down as the second best looking M3 ever built, but that doesn't mean the designers should throw cohesiveness of design to the wind.
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Thanks to F80NJM3 for sharing this. I can certainly believe this is the to-market production form of the G8x.

I'll comment to say that when the F80 leaks first started in earnest, with close to final form photos, it was an instant winner. A car that you're trying to get me to part with close to six figures for isn't something that one should have to warm up to.

There's an intangible quality, a certain je nais se quoi if you will, that most enthusiasts want if taking the depreciation hit to buy new. It's simple too, a car either has it, or does not. Prime example, the Carrera GT. It's not a 911, it's not a boxster - but man does it look right. Similar feeling to the MB GT's - they're unique but in a tasteful way that harkens back to the reserved aggression of the gullwings.

But on the other side of the coin you have the Gen 2 R8 - a good looking car, but something about it just doesn't have the presence that the Gen 1 brings to the table. And a more extreme example, the i8. Some liked it, some hated it, very very few LOVED it. The buzz was 'it's futuristic, it'll grow on you'. Then we all saw the 30k off MSRP and sub-1,000 lease deals that BMW needed to put on the trunk to move them.

I thought the Alfa was far far behind the F80 in pure looks, but somehow without Alfa changing a thing, it's likely to be the best looking in the segment for the next 3-4 years.

Where's the new E39 or E90 type cars? The one that's refined, tasteful, but in M trim is finished with just the right amount of anger and rage? The F80 was less restrained than the E9 cars, and may go down as the second best looking M3 ever built, but that doesn't mean the designers should throw cohesiveness of design to the wind.
BMW is prepared to lose a certain portion of global market share by putting this gigantic grill to the market because they think for every one they lose, they'll get one or more Chinese customers to buy it.

Might as well slap Made in China logo on it.
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Thanks to F80NJM3 for sharing this. I can certainly believe this is the to-market production form of the G8x.

I'll comment to say that when the F80 leaks first started in earnest, with close to final form photos, it was an instant winner. A car that you're trying to get me to part with close to six figures for isn't something that one should have to warm up to.

There's an intangible quality, a certain je nais se quoi if you will, that most enthusiasts want if taking the depreciation hit to buy new. It's simple too, a car either has it, or does not. Prime example, the Carrera GT. It's not a 911, it's not a boxster - but man does it look right. Similar feeling to the MB GT's - they're unique but in a tasteful way that harkens back to the reserved aggression of the gullwings.

But on the other side of the coin you have the Gen 2 R8 - a good looking car, but something about it just doesn't have the presence that the Gen 1 brings to the table. And a more extreme example, the i8. Some liked it, some hated it, very very few LOVED it. The buzz was 'it's futuristic, it'll grow on you'. Then we all saw the 30k off MSRP and sub-1,000 lease deals that BMW needed to put on the trunk to move them.

I thought the Alfa was far far behind the F80 in pure looks, but somehow without Alfa changing a thing, it's likely to be the best looking in the segment for the next 3-4 years.

Where's the new E39 or E90 type cars? The one that's refined, tasteful, but in M trim is finished with just the right amount of anger and rage? The F80 was less restrained than the E9 cars, and may go down as the second best looking M3 ever built, but that doesn't mean the designers should throw cohesiveness of design to the wind.
Could not have said it better myself, excellent post!
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Car and Driver just reviewed the 8-Series Gran Coupe and referred to the kidneys as "relatively small." That just shows how far this obsession with BMW and big grills has become.
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BMW is prepared to lose a certain portion of global market share by putting this gigantic grill to the market because they think for every one they lose, they'll get one or more Chinese customers to buy it.

Might as well slap Made in China logo on it.
I don't disagree that this design skew is intended to placate the Asian market.

To that however I say, the US is far-and-away the biggest M (not M-lite) consumer. With the taxes, petrol prices, and societal concerns all across the globe; M cars just don't sell like blue-light special time in other markets.

Make your 4 series (haha, that's still so fucking ridiculous to me—the 4 has 2 doors, the 3 has 4 doors; wowza) and new FWD 2er the "futuristic" transition point if you're trying to tap this other market. Why bastardize a market that you've worked hard, and successfully at, to corner?

What to we say to death (the G80)? Not today.
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The i4 is way better looking than the current 4 GC to my eye. I like it.
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Looks godawful. I'm just not a fan of the direction BMW has been going in lately.
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I certainty would not look back at that after I parked it up.
If I get one of these I'll need to hire a driver to park my F80 next to it everywhere. I can't write checks if I'm not doing the lookback
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Looks like the M division was held by gunpoint.
I wouldn't conceive this even if I was held at gun point. They must have been coerced in a more severe manner.
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