[weingarm]

Originally Posted by Gizmo 335i

I would like to see the base MT get a factory power boost up to 500. I know it's only 27 horsepower but it's the principle of it. And if it's .1 seconds faster in the 1/4 and 0-60, even better.

BMW under-rates their HP figures by a substantial margin.

Current G80 6MT makes 527hp at the crank. BMW published rating = 473hp.

Just like my 2019 M5 (base) which probably makes 670-680hp at the crank. BMW published rating = 600hp.

See this:
https://www.caranddriver.com/feature...no-horsepower/

So don't feel bad if you get the G80 6MT - it's most certainly a 500+hp car!!!

Not long ago this was 911 GT3-level power. Trust me, it's plenty!

(EDIT: The current 991.2 GT3 has 502hp
- although that might be the best drivers' car with a manual transmission ever made, but I digress. Also, it costs nearly $200k as typically equipped assuming you could even find one!)

[apexes]

When the G8X was revealed, I was not a fan of the front-end but seeing them in person I've come to really like it now. I felt the same way about Audi grilles in 2005, and Lexus grilles in 2011. Prior M3 generations never received different front fascia's throughout the lifecycle, even when the non-M versions did. IMO I'm not so sure there is a business case for it, but I'd bet they'll change lights and maybe the grille insert pattern. We all have an opinion, but truth is these cars will continue to sell, especially M3/4 cars that are already low volume. I'm sure BMW knew it could make a bold styling choice on the M3/4 and that there would be enough demand to sell every last one, especially being the last ICE M3/4.

[nearwater4me]

Originally Posted by Boomer 2019

There are now a couple of aftermarket companies that make CSL grills in both black plastic and carbon fiber that are plug and play replacements for the G80 and G82. I have ordered one along with other carbon bits for my incoming 2023 G82 Comp. About 2 weeks out.

I think you misunderstood my post, I was referring to the 3.0 CSL, not the M4 CSL.

[Boomer 2019]

Never mind.

[DavidXJ]

Originally Posted by Besharaf

Not to mention the S58 is a modified B58, and so far there have been no known significant issues.

Exactly. Just hang on to whatever you buy in this generation, because the contradiction-in-terms that is a soundless, electronic M3 is just too grim to countenance. No government will be forcing us off the road for the next 20 years, irrespective of what EVangelicals predict. And straight line performance will be meaningless soon, if it isn't already: I'd rather have a few burbles from an ageing but maintainable 6 than a monochrome, muted, electrified 4-pot that propels you nauseatingly to 60 in 2 secs. Bring on the G8x LCI, anyway--who knows, maybe they'll restore to it a proper binnacle--and it's good to know enthusiasts will have a little more time in this life cycle to order one.

[Besharaf]

Originally Posted by JerZBMerLife

Why why why did you have to mention the wonderful S4???? 😂😂😂. I had a 2018 and I miss that car soooo much. When someone mentions one, I get the shakes. 😂😂. My wife won't let me have two of my own cars or I would have another S4 right now.

Haha. I had a B8.5 and the supercharger was freaking fun, the throttle response was second to none. And it sounded like a Wookie/GTR hybrid with the AWE.

[YYYQQQ]

Originally Posted by nearwater4me

I agree it's not the most aesthetically pleasing front end.
If BMW were to make the front end more like the 3.0 CSL ones, I'm trading mine in.
Not meaning the current grills are ugly, but because I think the 3.0 CSL's is beautiful!

I agree. I am very close to get a MY23 G80. But now, I decide to hold my order and see what will happen. If they put the front of 3.0 CSL on G8X, that is a fantastic update.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Boomer 2019

There are now a couple of aftermarket companies that make CSL grills in both black plastic and carbon fiber that are plug and play replacements for the G80 and G82. I have ordered one along with other carbon bits for my incoming 2023 G82 Comp. About 2 weeks out.

Who sells the CSL grills in ABS black plastic?

[NorCalAthlete]

Originally Posted by vj123

Also I think C63 potential buyers are flocking to G8x platform as next generation C63 is going to have a 4 cylinder hybrid powertrain.

That's one thing I'm afraid of - that the next iteration where they go hybrid, they'll pair a 4-banger with EV motors and ditch the famous i6.

I would MUCH rather they figure out how to shoehorn in some EV motors AND keep the i6. Give me a 700 hp hybrid monster where I can make a 20 mile round trip grocery run on electric power only. Or even a version like some manufacturers do where it's EV-only for reverse, and hybrid on any forward driving.

Unfortunately, due to size constraints, (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) the most likely configuration where that happens becomes similar to the Corvette - the M4 becomes a mid engine platform. Given BMW's investment into the CLAR architecture, I don't see that happening anytime soon, so a 4-cylinder hybrid becomes the logical conclusion.

[Eddien123]

Still 100% against that front end look but it is an awesome car to drive. I won't be a buyer but hopefully it comes with some good improvements.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

That's one thing I'm afraid of - that the next iteration where they go hybrid, they'll pair a 4-banger with EV motors and ditch the famous i6.

I would love to see inline 6 as an option in the next generation M3/4. But with proposed ICE sale restriction from several countries and also states, its highly unlikely that BMW would have I6 as an option especially when competitors are taking 4 cylinder hybrid approach.

[therealm3]

Originally Posted by Drciop

I hope they change the grill
Don't like this one

Yeah, me too. 3.0 CSL grills would be a nice change or something closer to g87.

[Dr.Deep]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

That's one thing I'm afraid of - that the next iteration where they go hybrid, they'll pair a 4-banger with EV motors and ditch the famous i6.

I would MUCH rather they figure out how to shoehorn in some EV motors AND keep the i6. Give me a 700 hp hybrid monster where I can make a 20 mile round trip grocery run on electric power only. Or even a version like some manufacturers do where it's EV-only for reverse, and hybrid on any forward driving.

Unfortunately, due to size constraints, (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) the most likely configuration where that happens becomes similar to the Corvette - the M4 becomes a mid engine platform. Given BMW's investment into the CLAR architecture, I don't see that happening anytime soon, so a 4-cylinder hybrid becomes the logical conclusion.

The latest news and statements of the M CEO is that we may already see a next gen M3/4 as full EV.
And if you consider that they recently extended the production of the current gen by 2 years, this could be already the confirmation that they ditch the Hybrid.

It does not make sense for them to bring a completely new generation as a hybrid in 2029 where most countries will ban any new ICE powered cars in 2030/32.

Hybrids just became some stopgap cars for manufacturers to reduce their overall company emissions until they have some proper EV platforms…I doubt there will be much more R&D in that direction.

[G30M]

maybe they'll improve the grill.

max out the power (since this is the last ICE engine - apparently next M3/4 will be EV)

[dj93]

[IMG][/IMG]

Seen this on Goodyears Facebook page last week

[G30M]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

That's one thing I'm afraid of - that the next iteration where they go hybrid, they'll pair a 4-banger with EV motors and ditch the famous i6.

I would MUCH rather they figure out how to shoehorn in some EV motors AND keep the i6. Give me a 700 hp hybrid monster where I can make a 20 mile round trip grocery run on electric power only. Or even a version like some manufacturers do where it's EV-only for reverse, and hybrid on any forward driving.

Unfortunately, due to size constraints, (or fortunately, depending on how you look at it) the most likely configuration where that happens becomes similar to the Corvette - the M4 becomes a mid engine platform. Given BMW's investment into the CLAR architecture, I don't see that happening anytime soon, so a 4-cylinder hybrid becomes the logical conclusion.

V8 Hybrid for M5, EV for M3

[xmanpro]

The 2032 model is gonna be lit! 🔥

[m3number86]

Originally Posted by MachinesWithSouls

*looks at LCI E9X*

"Ohh, new tail lights!"

*Looks at LCI F8X*

"Oh, new tail lights AND headlights!"

I can't imagine what's in store for the G8X!!!

*looks at e9x/f8x lci…..still look good
*looks at g8x….wtf is this ugly ass social media vehicle

[MachinesWithSouls]

Originally Posted by m3number86

*looks at e9x/f8x lci…..still look good
*looks at g8x….wtf is this ugly ass social media vehicle

Oh don't worry, in one of those old M3s, you wouldn't see the front for very long.

Here's another pic in case you missed the first.

[2011ninja]

What's LCI

I'll Google it

[edwinm3]

Originally Posted by wtwo3

Luckily since I'm planning to do PCD, break-in service should happen within the first 2 months.

But yes, after 4 years I'll probably be looking at 25-30k miles. Which is why I made the comment about not being able to properly assess long term reliability.

In reality I'll probably see where I'm at by year 5 - if it makes sense for me to order another G80 or just keep this one.

i broke my f82 back in 2015 on the autobahn while on european delivery, it was fine. Just drive

[Vishal50028]

the trolls are out lol