LCI G8x M3 / M4 xDrive will get power increase to 525 HP

DocWeatherington · 03-21-2023, 11:39 AM

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Originally Posted by Blue Angel

Bean counters don’t want to sell manuals. Enticing buyers away will strengthen their argument…

“See? People don’t want manuals anymore (especially if we neuter them).”

Bmw should just development a new legit 6 speed then charge for it.. In reverse like a PdK 2500 bucks ...

If it's a good manual and can take the power and then some. People would pay

nsquared · 03-21-2023, 11:40 AM

I wonder for pre-this-version-of-LCI

They will release a M performance software upgrade to get this power levels.

yousefnjr · 03-21-2023, 11:52 AM

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Originally Posted by ScullyD

Seems like less of a point to get the M3 CS now.

I’m not sure a few extra ponies were the reason to buy one. In any case, simple unlock & tune will have any of these models 600+ hp anyway. Mines probably ~700 and it ain’t no CS. Small power bump on the comp models is only a good thing imo.

robopp · 03-21-2023, 12:00 PM

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Originally Posted by yousefnjr

I’m not sure a few extra ponies were the reason to buy one. In any case, simple unlock & tune will have any of these models 600+ hp anyway. Mines probably ~700 and it ain’t no CS. Small power bump on the comp models is only a good thing imo.

Simple unlock?! Doesn’t unlocking require you to send your ecu to Ukraine or something similar?

Neptune7 · 03-21-2023, 12:12 PM

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Originally Posted by ScullyD

Seems like less of a point to get the M3 CS now.

There's more to the CS than the power, according to Mr M himself:

(at the 45sec mark)

LuckyBrand · 03-21-2023, 12:13 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Bmw should just development a new legit 6 speed then charge for it.. In reverse like a PFK 2500 bucks ...

If it's a good manual and can take the power and then some. People would pay

Could you imagine if they offered the manual in 525 hp and torque as the auto with an updated 7 speed tranny so you could drive on the highway as well without turning 3 grand at 80?

I mean yeah take my money.

HudsonHornett · 03-21-2023, 12:21 PM

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Originally Posted by ScullyD

Seems like less of a point to get the M3 CS now.

I wouldn't go that far but I would say that the CS looks like worse value than the CSL (especially in the UK, where spec for spec they are exactly the same price).

12CTCT12 · 03-21-2023, 12:24 PM

I was literally going to confirm spec with my dealer today for a M3 Comp Xdrive. I guess that’s a very modern problem - there’s always going to be a slightly better version on the horizon - do you wait or just get something now?!

1209582 · 03-21-2023, 12:28 PM

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Originally Posted by 12CTCT12

I was literally going to confirm spec with my dealer today for a M3 Comp Xdrive. I guess that’s a very modern problem - there’s always going to be a slightly better version on the horizon - do you wait or just get something now?!

get it now

yousefnjr · 03-21-2023, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by robopp

Simple unlock?! Doesn’t unlocking require you to send your ecu to Ukraine or something similar?

Finland, but yeah it was simple as pie. Less than a week start to finish and around $1k including shipping iirc. Only takes a few minutes to pull your DME out.

NotSharocks · 03-21-2023, 12:40 PM

The facelift was not the facelift we had hoped for.

ScullyD · 03-21-2023, 12:43 PM

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Originally Posted by HudsonHornett

I wouldn't go that far but I would say that the CS looks like worse value than the CSL (especially in the UK, where spec for spec they are exactly the same price).

I would hope that the lightweighting and damper/caster changes in the CS improve handling drastically enough that it’s worth the money.

If not, yeah the CS will look obsolete after the LCI refresh. There is also possibly an LCI CS as well rumored.

DocWeatherington · 03-21-2023, 01:06 PM

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Originally Posted by LuckyBrand

Could you imagine if they offered the manual in 525 hp and torque as the auto with an updated 7 speed tranny so you could drive on the highway as well without turning 3 grand at 80?

I mean yeah take my money.

Yeah people would pay... Drop it in the M2, Supra ...charge a reasonable fee of 2-3k for it. Manual lives on and cost would be covered by the buyers. Just over build the tranny for those that tune.

GOLFFRR · 03-21-2023, 01:25 PM

interesting

parabmw · 03-21-2023, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by yousefnjr

I’m not sure a few extra ponies were the reason to buy one. In any case, simple unlock & tune will have any of these models 600+ hp anyway. Mines probably ~700 and it ain’t no CS. Small power bump on the comp models is only a good thing imo.

I take the extra 20 ponies and keep my warranty intact. not to mention risk damaging something with a tune. I guess you pay to play...to each their own.

DO444 · 03-21-2023, 01:28 PM

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Originally Posted by DocWeatherington

Wonder if BMW would offer an aftermarket tuning for the software/tune updates like GM and Ford do with matching factory warranty.

BMW if your listening ...

Curious to see if these cars make more power or they are they are just reporting what's already there.

Wonder if steering feel or suspension tuning will adjust as well.

Do you really think it’s gonna make a big difference?

20hp?

You can pretty much be assured that if you do a 20hp tune on your own, it’s not going to break anything and you won’t have to pay BMW another $3k.

DGod · 03-21-2023, 01:45 PM

Keep the hp, just change that front end so I can order the Touring

mirob · 03-21-2023, 01:58 PM

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Originally Posted by NotSharocks

The facelift was not the facelift we had hoped for.

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Originally Posted by DGod

Keep the hp, just change that front end so I can order the Touring

What took you guys so long?

akkando · 03-21-2023, 02:04 PM

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Originally Posted by 12CTCT12

I was literally going to confirm spec with my dealer today for a M3 Comp Xdrive. I guess that’s a very modern problem - there’s always going to be a slightly better version on the horizon - do you wait or just get something now?!

That depends on your definition of better. By 2030 better might be fully electric.

gs1403 · 03-21-2023, 02:06 PM

All these year to year changes and price increases are getting pretty annoying. Especially as somebody who ordered a 2022 M4 around this time last year, ended up with a 2023 that came with a significant price increase and no other changes except the shit that they removed/skimped on, and then seeing them come out with a 2024 model year mere months after the fact with the iDrive8, and then now a facelift planned for next year with a power increase..BMW, f*ck you and get your sh!t together.

ScullyD · 03-21-2023, 02:09 PM

I wonder if this means they are adding the 48V mild hybrid to the M3. If so, I’d prefer not to have that for long term reliability.

The did add this to the new X5M.

Slak · 03-21-2023, 02:32 PM

G8X is probably underrated at 503 so it’s not a big increase. That said, more HPs are always welcome.

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