[OtoPA]

I ordered with a moonroof, TBII, full tartufo, M4cx. I'm an open roof fan on occasion. I'm not planning on tracking, so the weight issue, isn't. Should I want a CF look, I can wrap it, but doubt that I'd be able to install a aftermarket on a CF top. YMMV, and it's why they're called options..

[DO444]

Originally Posted by DFW_M2C

Wow, so important to be different from G20!
You really spend any time thinking if the G80 is real or someone is posing?
And then…makes you feel great that it is a real one, or…?

The point I am trying to make is sunroof has the functionality, the CF has zero functionality for 99% of us. What you are describing above is totally irrelevant to me, I can care less if someone is posing or driving a real G80.

1% would benefit if slightly lower CG on track and slightly more headroom without (open) sunroof!

I see your point, but you know people do this.
It’s human nature.

99% of the people with M cars are not tracking anyway, so by definition it’s a status purchase.

Makes sense that the trend would continue to options. A lot of the M factor is, look at me!

I’m not immune to that, it’s part of why I bought it over a 340i.

That’s just life baby!

[kjx]

Originally Posted by DFW_M2C

Wow, so important to be different from G20!
You really spend any time thinking if the G80 is real or someone is posing?
And then…makes you feel great that it is a real one, or…?

Yes, I evaluate every car I see on the road. Is that Tesla a bleh one or a Perf or a Plaid? Helps me know what I need to do if I want to pass it. Same story for BMWs. And I'm also happy to see one of the club. I've not seen G8X franken builds, but I've seen some convincing F8X ones and then see the one or two things that give it away. And yes, it matters to me because I admire the genuine article and don't admire fakes.

Originally Posted by DFW_M2C

The point I am trying to make is sunroof has the functionality, the CF has zero functionality for 99% of us. What you are describing above is totally irrelevant to me, I can care less if someone is posing or driving a real G80.

1% would benefit if slightly lower CG on track and slightly more headroom without (open) sunroof!

Let me repeat this: to each his own. I think non-CF roof cars are diluted. Like a G8X with all seasons instead of performance summers and performance winters is also diluted. I think it's not intellectually honest to pretend otherwise. You're of course entitled to a different opinion and I'm not challenging whatever you want to think.

[Allerum]

Originally Posted by kjx

Let me repeat this: to each his own. I think non-CF roof cars are diluted. Like a G8X with all seasons instead of performance summers and performance winters is also diluted. I think it's not intellectually honest to pretend otherwise. You're of course entitled to a different opinion and I'm not challenging whatever you want to think.

I plan to track my sunroof g80 on all seasons.

[DO444]

Originally Posted by Allerum

I plan to track my sunroof g80 on all seasons.

Which is your right to do.
Many people like to do things the wrong way on purpose.

[KevinGS]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Question regarding your CF wrapped roof….did they leave the shark fin body color? Or, was the shark fin somehow also wrapped? I’ve heard that’s the issue with trying to wrap the roof after the fact….the fin doesn’t wrap well. I’m considering the same thing fyi….

Left it body-colored, and it looks good.

[dbvallett]

Originally Posted by IndyWoodGuy

I had carbon roof in my F80 and the entire time missed having a sunroof. This time around i ordered the sunroof. the Carbon is beautiful bit I'm not racing it and I use it all of the time.

Gorgeous spec… what color is that?

[dbvallett]

My (prior) favorite of the cars I’ve owned was a 650 convertible… I don’t live in Vegas anymore, but I also couldn’t resist the option to have at least part of the roof open. Wasn’t about to go with a convertible in Quebec though, so moonroof it is.

[FoxberryJam]

I went with sunroof but swapped out the red shark-fin with a CF shark fin - that minor tweak makes it look perfect, IMO

[cubanbimmer3]

Originally Posted by dbvallett

My (prior) favorite of the cars I’ve owned was a 650 convertible… I don’t live in Vegas anymore, but I also couldn’t resist the option to have at least part of the roof open. Wasn’t about to go with a convertible in Quebec though, so moonroof it is.

Wait, are moonroof and sunroof different options?? I have moonroof on my spec (but want a sunroof). Going to be really bummed if I can’t open it. I don’t remember seeing two distinct options though, or I definitely would’ve chosen sunroof.

[dbvallett]

Originally Posted by cubanbimmer3

Wait, are moonroof and sunroof different options?? I have moonroof on my spec (but want a sunroof). Going to be really bummed if I can’t open it. I don’t remember seeing two distinct options though, or I definitely would’ve chosen sunroof.

I use them interchangeably… I don’t think there are two options, and it definitely opens

[The Nerd]

Although….it’s one of the least opening sunroofs I’ve ever had. It literally opens just past halfway when full opened.

[vasillalov]

I've had all of my previous cars with a sun roof. Its noisy, its heavy and it reduces the headroom. On a sports car, albeit a luxury one, in my opinion its pointless to have it.

I stripped out my E90 335i sedan and turned it into a dedicated hdpe and autox car. I personally weighed every single part I took off the car.

I can tell you that the entire sunroof cassette with rails, motor, glass, drain channels and hardware weighs 47lbs. That's a lot of weight and what's worse is that it is the furthest possible distance from the center of gravity in the car.

To truly understand what that means, imagine 45lbs dumbbell on a 4ft pole exerting torque. That's a lot of torque wanting to induce roll over.

[The Nerd]

Originally Posted by vasillalov

I've had all of my previous cars with a sun roof. Its noisy, its heavy and it reduces the headroom. On a sports car, albeit a luxury one, in my opinion its pointless to have it.

I stripped out my E90 335i sedan and turned it into a dedicated hdpe and autox car. I personally weighed every single part I took off the car.

I can tell you that the entire sunroof cassette with rails, motor, glass, drain channels and hardware weighs 47lbs. That's a lot of weight and what's worse is that it is the furthest possible distance from the center of gravity in the car.

To truly understand what that means, imagine 45lbs dumbbell on a 4ft pole exerting torque. That's a lot of torque wanting to induce roll over.

In your example….now imagine there’s 3850 lbs at the base of the 4ft pole. The effects of that 45 lb dumbbell at the opposite end would not have much consequence against the 3850 lbs.

Like so many things (color, wheel choice, etc, etc)…..the decision to option the sunroof is purely subjective. To each their own….there’s not a right or wrong decision.

[geko29]

Originally Posted by The Nerd

Although….it’s one of the least opening sunroofs I’ve ever had. It literally opens just past halfway when full opened.

Thank you for making me feel slightly better about not optioning the moonroof. Seriously, I went back and forth for literally months before finally deciding on the slicktop. And even after that, continued to second-guess myself.

[MalibuM3]

+1. I really like the sunroof.

[Flying05]

Originally Posted by DFW_M2C

Wow, so important to be different from G20!
You really spend any time thinking if the G80 is real or someone is posing?
And then…makes you feel great that it is a real one, or…?

The point I am trying to make is sunroof has the functionality, the CF has zero functionality for 99% of us. What you are describing above is totally irrelevant to me, I can care less if someone is posing or driving a real G80.

1% would benefit if slightly lower CG on track and slightly more headroom without (open) sunroof!

Agree!

Most people could care less if you have an M or a 3 series. And most don’t even know the difference unless you are into cars. Our cars are souped up 3 series and that’s all.

With the M badge on so many non true M’s, the brand is watered down anyways unfortunately.

[JeetG80x]

I personally love the CF roof. I never felt the need to open the sunroof/moonroof on any of my cars. I like the sporty look of the CF roof and I would pick CF over sunroof every time.

[Jetolso]

You're already paying for an expensive carbon fiber roof - I could not be at peace unchecking that option.

[Jim B]

I have the moonroof on mine and had one on the F82 I traded in for it. I often tilt it up for ventilation particularly on a freeway when I don't need the A/C. I like the looks of the roof in body color rather than the black carbon fiber, especially with IOMG and the Tartufo interior.

[Juanero]

My last few DD cars had no sunroof, so I ordered no sunroof. I didn't use the sunroof much at all.

[2011ninja]

Originally Posted by Flying05

Agree!

Most people could care less if you have an M or a 3 series. And most don’t even know the difference unless you are into cars. Our cars are souped up 3 series and that’s all.

With the M badge on so many non true M’s, the brand is watered down anyways unfortunately.

Porsche community…

GT2-RS?

Meh souped up base 911