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      11-28-2021, 05:40 PM   #23
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Understood…trying to throw pearls when I can as an uneducated expert! Ha!

Unbelievable. I knew the government traces everything.

I go on youtube just now to watch a random video, and without ever having to search for such things, this comes up on my youtube feed.



Wtf!!! lol

I never searched for m2 on youtube, never searched for S55 or N55. If anything, all i been watching lately was G80 stuff.

And M2 exhaust comparison video pops up on my feed.
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Just curious, what is the point of regulation if it is legal to defeat them by modifying cars?
Well, some of us live in free states.
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I don't get the point of titanium tips on stainless steel exhaust. Unless it's a full titanium exhaust like Akra.

Otherwise nice video 👍
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The exhaust on joe's car make it sound like a 350/370Z. And that's not a good thing.

Remus does sound better but still not as good.

How i wish our cars sounded as good as the M2's. That's the S55 engine right?
I'm an M2C owner myself currently, not a fan of the S55 sound either.

Unless you're talking about the OG M2 with the N55, sounded wayyyyy better
I may be one of the only weird ones on here or in existence but i absolutely loved the way my F80 sounded. Catless downpipes and muffler and res delete was music to my ears. I miss it everyday haha
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Understood…trying to throw pearls when I can as an uneducated expert! Ha!

Unbelievable. I knew the government traces everything.

I go on youtube just now to watch a random video, and without ever having to search for such things, this comes up on my youtube feed.



Wtf!!! lol

I never searched for m2 on youtube, never searched for S55 or N55. If anything, all i been watching lately was G80 stuff.

And M2 exhaust comparison video pops up on my feed.
lol

Out of the off chance you weren't joking, please don't confuse cookies with the government tracking you. Most browsers, especially Chrome, make money by selling ads to you. Browsers track what you do all across the web to target ads and relevant content to you. By simply typing up M2 exhaust, Google Chrome knows you'd be interested in that video, thus they can get you to click on it and watch ads. If you don't like this kind of behaviour, you can try and limit cookies and/or switch to a browser that limits it, such as Firefox.

Also, the M2 was made with an N55 and the S55. The "competition" model has the S55 and being a twin turbo straight 6 - it just doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the twin scroll, single turbo N55. When it comes to 6 cylinder engines, twin turbo rarely sounds better than a single turbo. There was an F80 by rktunes I believe, that was converted into a single turbo and it sounds badass, just like the old 2JZ and RB26 of yesteryear.
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      11-28-2021, 07:38 PM   #28
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Understood…trying to throw pearls when I can as an uneducated expert! Ha!

Unbelievable. I knew the government traces everything.

I go on youtube just now to watch a random video, and without ever having to search for such things, this comes up on my youtube feed.



Wtf!!! lol

I never searched for m2 on youtube, never searched for S55 or N55. If anything, all i been watching lately was G80 stuff.

And M2 exhaust comparison video pops up on my feed.
lol

Out of the off chance you weren't joking, please don't confuse cookies with the government tracking you. Most browsers, especially Chrome, make money by selling ads to you. Browsers track what you do all across the web to target ads and relevant content to you. By simply typing up M2 exhaust, Google Chrome knows you'd be interested in that video, thus they can get you to click on it and watch ads. If you don't like this kind of behaviour, you can try and limit cookies and/or switch to a browser that limits it, such as Firefox.

Also, the M2 was made with an N55 and the S55. The "competition" model has the S55 and being a twin turbo straight 6 - it just doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the twin scroll, single turbo N55. When it comes to 6 cylinder engines, twin turbo rarely sounds better than a single turbo. There was an F80 by rktunes I believe, that was converted into a single turbo and it sounds badass, just like the old 2JZ and RB26 of yesteryear.
RB26 was twin turbo.
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      11-28-2021, 07:47 PM   #29
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RB26 was twin turbo.
Apologies, I meant the RB24DET. The 26 had the TT
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lol

Out of the off chance you weren't joking, please don't confuse cookies with the government tracking you. Most browsers, especially Chrome, make money by selling ads to you. Browsers track what you do all across the web to target ads and relevant content to you. By simply typing up M2 exhaust, Google Chrome knows you'd be interested in that video, thus they can get you to click on it and watch ads. If you don't like this kind of behaviour, you can try and limit cookies and/or switch to a browser that limits it, such as Firefox.

Also, the M2 was made with an N55 and the S55. The "competition" model has the S55 and being a twin turbo straight 6 - it just doesn't sound anywhere near as good as the twin scroll, single turbo N55. When it comes to 6 cylinder engines, twin turbo rarely sounds better than a single turbo. There was an F80 by rktunes I believe, that was converted into a single turbo and it sounds badass, just like the old 2JZ and RB26 of yesteryear.

I say of all the years of being on the interwebs, i haven't noticed this until recently. You might be right about the cookies, but what about when i'm at work, and we have a discussion about pizza, because we want to order lunch. I go on my phone, on IG, scroll through and i see an ad for papa johns. So there was no physical searching on my phone, just words among co-workers. Can't be coincidence. Try it at work tomorrow.

Never typed M2 in google search. The only time i ever had anything M2 related on my computer, was when i was doing a vague build on the BMW website, back in like june, before i ordered my M3C. So many many months ago. I started to talk about the exhaust today, then an M2 exhaust comparison video shows up on youtube.

Again i know nothing about BMW so you're probably right on everything you said, i was just commenting on how M2's sound amazing, at least the N55's if that's what i'm referring to.
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      11-28-2021, 08:19 PM   #31
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I think the Remus sounds so much better
Couldn't agree more. Out of all the exhaust I've heard Remus has sounded the best.

One thing I have noticed is all these exhaust manufacturers, apart from Remus, have been uploading the worst videos when it comes to promoting their product. You go on Valvetronics YouTube page and they are uploading videos shot by an iPhone. Supersprint uploaded their driving video and it has no label if they are testing a J pipe or H pipe version of their midpipe. Akrapovic has a video up and the car sounds like stock, being told it needs to be driven x amount of miles before it sounds any better (why upload the video then). Armytrix and FI are probably the worst sounding regardless of video quality. Point being, even if their exhausts do sound good, the videos they are uploading do not do justice.
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Couldn't agree more. Out of all the exhaust I've heard Remus has sounded the best.

One thing I have noticed is all these exhaust manufacturers, apart from Remus, have been uploading the worst videos when it comes to promoting their product. You go on Valvetronics YouTube page and they are uploading videos shot by an iPhone. Supersprint uploaded their driving video and it has no label if they are testing a J pipe or H pipe version of their midpipe. Akrapovic has a video up and the car sounds like stock, being told it needs to be driven x amount of miles before it sounds any better (why upload the video then). Armytrix and FI are probably the worst sounding regardless of video quality. Point being, even if their exhausts do sound good, the videos they are uploading do not do justice.


What about these guys?
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      11-28-2021, 08:27 PM   #33
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I say of all the years of being on the interwebs, i haven't noticed this until recently. You might be right about the cookies, but what about when i'm at work, and we have a discussion about pizza, because we want to order lunch. I go on my phone, on IG, scroll through and i see an ad for papa johns. So there was no physical searching on my phone, just words among co-workers. Can't be coincidence. Try it at work tomorrow.

Never typed M2 in google search. The only time i ever had anything M2 related on my computer, was when i was doing a vague build on the BMW website, back in like june, before i ordered my M3C. So many many months ago. I started to talk about the exhaust today, then an M2 exhaust comparison video shows up on youtube.

Again i know nothing about BMW so you're probably right on everything you said, i was just commenting on how M2's sound amazing, at least the N55's if that's what i'm referring to.
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Facebook/Instagram, up until very recently (and still do depending on where you're browsing and on what device), tracked what you search up on Google and what you browse on your phone to serve you relevant ads. This is why Mark Z. and co are upset about what Apple did recently - natively block apps from cross tracking you and using information obtained by said cross tracking to serve you ads. Facebook/instagram's ad revenue steeply dropped after Apple introduced this feature in iOS 14.5 as users opted to not be tracked, forcing facebook/instagram (there are others out there, but those two are the primary culprits) to serve irrelevant ads due to lack of information about the user. You can turn off every app's ability to cross track you on an iPhone by simply going into Settings -> Privacy -> Tracking -> Allow Apps to Request to Track turned OFF. If you turn it on, then you'll get a notification each time an app tries to track what you do on your phone - why bother! Just turn it off and enjoy the privacy

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Bit of a rant, but this is the reality of the internet. Google Chrome is not free, facebook is not free, Instagram is not free. The old saying goes - when you don't pay for a product - you are the product. In this case, your data is extremely precious and companies want nothing more than to spy on you to serve you more relevant ads to make more money.

Note: I only have a facebook account for my business where I log in every now and then to check on it. Instagram is used to look at awesome cars. If I didn't have a business or a wife that refuses to get off instagram - I'd have neither.

Oh, and yes - the N55 M2 sounds infinitely better than the S55 M2
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Good video quality. That's how it should be done. I like the sound of the exhaust, but a bit pricey for my taste.
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Those tips make the car look cheap.

I still prefer M performance exhaust to any aftermarket exhaust.

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Ok, what am I missing?

Is this the new norm? …exhausts that sound like crap now allegedly sound "good"?

It seems the only thing aftermarket exhausts do in this case is amplify the already awful sound.

Manufacturers and tuners should give up on trying to make these cars sound good from the back - because that will never happen - and instead focus on improving induction sound in the front. I maintain that the e46 M3 CSL airbox produces the best induction noise of any car ever made.
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They actually seem to nullify BMW's work to make these cars less raspy.
The S58 sounds much better than the S55, now they have achieved the goal of making it sound as bad as the old one.
It's never a good idea to replace 2 OPFs, 2 secondary cats and a resonator (or 2 resonators for cars without OPFs) with straight pipes, it just makes the sound deafening and raspy with a lot of drone. Imagine how it would be with skat downpipes too.
Personally I like Supersprint's solution with 2 small resonators in the front pipes and H-pipe.


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For me standard exaust is better. Milltek is louder for sure but doesn't sound better. Even with closed valve I thing longer journey will be hard to stand.
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I had a Milltek exhaust on my Subaru Impreza WRX Sti Spec C may years ago, as did a number of fellow owners and the exhausts were always well made using good quality materials. I'll definitely consider one (along with the Remus) when my G82 arrives next year.

Couple of pics for nostalgia - not great pics of the exhaust admittedly lol





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sounds more interesting but I haven't ever heard an F80 or G80 that I thought sounded good. this isn't an exception.
I could relate to you, but when I heard this beast, I was sold!!!

Granted, it is to loud but the sound is so aggressive and addictive to me!

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I could relate to you, but when I heard this beast, I was sold!!!

Granted, it is to loud but the sound is so aggressive and addictive to me!

Wayyyyyyyyyyyyyyyy too loud.
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Those tips make the car look cheap.

I still prefer M performance exhaust to any aftermarket exhaust.

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Agreed. I've had the MPE for both my previous F80's. I was hoping to get it for the G82, but it doesn't make much sense with the price point.

I don't care to remove cats and resonators etc. just give me a light, good looking and sounding exhaust that doesn't break any laws or is obnoxiously loud that wakes up my neighbors going 10mph like some of these other clowns driving by in their "notice me!!!" shitboxes.
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^^^. I’m an exhaust addict but not a annoy the world with it one. So every vehicle I’ve had has had one and I’ll continue that trend. Just like you I prefer one and again not THAT one we all seem to be subjected too ha ha ha.
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The Milltek exhaust makes the S58 sound more like the S55. Not something I'd want to hear more of! Louder is not always better..
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