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Sprung and unsprung weight has the same effect on acceleration, but rotating mass however accentuate the impact. I'd say the CCB help offset ~15kg of the AWD 50kg weight gain.
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I am not a 'Dude' but yes i own a RWD version.
Ofcourse when i wrote what i wrote about the AWD version being a waste of money and totally unneccesary i knew many would disagree with me. It is just that the difference between the 2 cars is so small that in my opinion developing the 2 versions is a bit too much and therefore not really needed. Yes in the wet the difference is surely much larger, but for me that is also a non-issue because i think that no-one should do full power accelerations in the wet with cars this powerful. But one could ofcourse also say that BMW should have just developed only the AWD version, being the better car of the both if one looks at it only by numbers and purely scientifically....... But for me : this is likely the last real M3 (real meaning petrol powered only) in a long tradition of all RWD M3's, and the improvement the AWD brings is not large enough to switch from RWD...... So i still think that developing a AWD was perhaps a bit unneeded.... But if my RWD G80 would get stolen tomorrow and i needed to order a new one i would likely order a AWD one. |
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I agree. Both cars are superbly engineered in all regards. A car that isn't quicker until about 120+ doesn't appeal to me much. I'd much rather take the heavier AWD car & enjoy it all year round.
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Think the only real difference is weight & the RWD is only RWD. Seems like the AWD is the best of both worlds, a bit heavier but being able to run as both an AWD & RWD car.
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Yes weight. The most important factor in 0-60 and quarter mile. Its why those almost 1000 hp hellcats are not really that fast. With 471hp and 503 torque in my Z. I wonder what i can run if tested. Maybe oversized tires for that test. Car only really grips on hot day. Thats why awd is a must in colder climate. I am debating getting an M3 awd myself, but for a few sheckles more M5 all the way. If the corvette market returns to normal thats on the list.
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Weight is important but if it was the only factor, as you claim, how does a Plaid run a 1.9 and sub 10 second 1/4 if it weighs about the same as the hellcat?
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electric. instant torque. Way different. Cant compare electric to petrol.
And yes electric is way better for 0-60. Buy a tesla roadster and rule the road. But performance has nothing to do with 0-60. Hellcat on a road course is laughable. You can have Nascar and Drag Racing. I will take Formula 1 anyday. Getting off subject. Warm climate regular M3 cold climate AWD.
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The point is that there's no difference between sprung and unsprung weight from an acceleration perspective. I edited my post for clarity.
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Put yourself on a diet and swap out everything for the carbon stuff, and the weight difference becomes negligible.
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If there was no difference between the RWD and AWD, BMW wouldn't make 2 models. And they wouldn't be selling all their higher end models (M5, M8) as AWD only.
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