[Pirate1]

Originally Posted by GixY2K

Nice times. However, I got stuck on your "KN filter cone" comments.
What part# is this? I went to KN's website and did not find anything for the G80/G82.

a 4 inch cone that i modified with alu tubing !

dont remember the part number sorry

eric

[DS_BMW]

Originally Posted by Pirate1

if you look at the graph at the end i stop the acceleration because arrive at the end of the road lol!!!

that why i lost 5mph and probably 2 tenth of a second !

eric

Ok makes sense. Def try map 7 though. Are you shifting yourself or in auto?

[Pirate1]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

Ok makes sense. Def try map 7 though. Are you shifting yourself or in auto?

Auto shifting!

[Sbm007]

Originally Posted by Pirate1

Here my run on pump gas
2022 g80 awd
94 petro Canada
KN filter cone
Racechip map 6
Catted DP

Everything else stock

Very slippery this morning 1 degree 🤷🏻*♂️

Any 100-200 times?

[Pirate1]

Map 6 again
Map 7 not better !!

[Sbm007]

Originally Posted by Pirate1

Map 6 again
Map 7 not better !!

Thanks! Good result for a simple piggyback mod!

[Pirate1]

Originally Posted by Sbm007

Thanks! Good result for a simple piggyback mod!

Thank
It definitely need ps4 no traction at all with the pzero!

[B58SP]

Originally Posted by Pirate1

Map 6 again
Map 7 not better !!

Are you saying the map 6 100-200 is faster than 7? If so, I might try that since I always do 7. Also, do you run in efficient throttle or sport?

[0Camus0]

Sorry, I know the thread is pump gas, but the E85 is from a pump, so technically it's valid.

This is for the M4 Manual with BM3 and custom map by NVM.

Besides the joke, this is on E30. I think we are finding the limits of the clutch, it's slipping a bit in 3rd and a lot in 4th . Still I think I can make it into the 5s:



We are about to test E40 or E45, but I don't think it will get any better. The torque reported by the ECU at the crank it's close to 800 ft lb.

I do wonder how many G8X manual cars are out there with the ECU flash at this point. Maybe there are more, but they don't post here... The difference between the ZF and the 6 speed is huge, I would think that I could shave half or even a full second just because of the shift time + clutch slip.

[Pirate1]

Originally Posted by B58SP

Are you saying the map 6 100-200 is faster than 7? If so, I might try that since I always do 7. Also, do you run in efficient throttle or sport?

Sport+ for me
And yes for me with pzero is faster on map 6

I never try sport or efficiently but I will definitely will try it in map 7

Eric

[Pirate1]

Originally Posted by 0Camus0

Sorry, I know the thread is pump gas, but the E85 is from a pump, so technically it's valid.

This is for the M4 Manual with BM3 and custom map by NVM.

Besides the joke, this is on E30. I think we are finding the limits of the clutch, it's slipping a bit in 3rd and a lot in 4th . Still I think I can make it into the 5s:



We are about to test E40 or E45, but I don't think it will get any better. The torque reported by the ECU at the crank it's close to 800 ft lb.

I do wonder how many G8X manual cars are out there with the ECU flash at this point. Maybe there are more, but they don't post here... The difference between the ZF and the 6 speed is huge, I would think that I could shave half or even a full second just because of the shift time + clutch slip.

What is the total cost for the unlock + tuned ?

[DS_BMW]

Originally Posted by Pirate1

Sport+ for me
And yes for me with pzero is faster on map 6

I never try sport or efficiently but I will definitely will try it in map 7

Eric

So your saying map 6 is quicker from a launch because of traction issues? What about map 6 vs 7, 100-200?

[Pirate1]

Originally Posted by DS_BMW

So your saying map 6 is quicker from a launch because of traction issues? What about map 6 vs 7, 100-200?

On my side I don’t see any difference in sport +
6 or 7

From a dig 6 is better yes because of the traction issue with pzero

[G80indy]

This sucks

[0Camus0]

Originally Posted by Pirate1

What is the total cost for the unlock + tuned ?

It depends, for my case it was around $2800, $2200 for the unlock and $600 for the BM3 license. That would get you the OTS maps which are good, honestly.

But I wanted a custom tune, so I called Mabz from NVM.

My first option was to clone the ECU and have Ecutek, but for some reason the cloned ECU didn't worked with the car, something specific with the manual version I guess. I think if you have a competition model, you can go for the cloned ECU and have Ecutek + Flex Fuel with Visconti tune, but that would be a bit more expensive.

I would call Marshall from Visconti Tuning and ask for the price of just the unlocking.

[rashannon81]

Originally Posted by 0Camus0

It depends, for my case it was around $2800, $2200 for the unlock and $600 for the BM3 license. That would get you the OTS maps which are good, honestly.

But I wanted a custom tune, so I called Mabz from NVM.

My first option was to clone the ECU and have Ecutek, but for some reason the cloned ECU didn't worked with the car, something specific with the manual version I guess. I think if you have a competition model, you can go for the cloned ECU and have Ecutek + Flex Fuel with Visconti tune, but that would be a bit more expensive.

I would call Marshall from Visconti Tuning and ask for the price of just the unlocking.

Are you max effort stock turbo at this point? Intake, exhaust, DPs?
Curious at about what torque the clutch is slipping at. Your tuner could just dial back timing in the midrange to keep it in check and let that clutch hold a bit further up top.

Any plans to upgrade it? I saw there's a few options from Clutchmasters that are like $2000 that will likely hold 4 digits.

I have the exact same plans and it's good to note that the 6MT doesn't work for the cloning process..

[0Camus0]

Originally Posted by rashannon81

Are you max effort stock turbo at this point? Intake, exhaust, DPs?
Curious at about what torque the clutch is slipping at. Your tuner could just dial back timing in the midrange to keep it in check and let that clutch hold a bit further up top.

Any plans to upgrade it? I saw there's a few options from Clutchmasters that are like $2000 that will likely hold 4 digits.

I have the exact same plans and it's good to note that the 6MT doesn't work for the cloning process..

Just catless DPs, but I am planning to upgrade to full exhaust and Eventuri Intake at some point.

From the logs I can tell that it's about 780 ftlb to the clutch where the slip happens, it's always in higher gears and low RPMs. For instance, the pulls are done always in 4th gear at 2500 RPM, it will slip to 3200 and then come back to 2800 and starts pulling.

Yeah, I think we can do that, but I would rather have the torque. And yes, my plan is to get the FX350, to keep it street friendly, that is exactly my next purchase.

With the clutch keeping the power, it will be closer to low 5s for the 100 km/h to 200 km/h, which is insane, I mean, 6 s flat it's already pretty good for a manual, according to the Auto Top NL 100 to 200 list, it's a bit faster than the 992 911 Turbo S convertible:

https://autotopnl100-200.com/100-200/

On the cloning, the ECUs are from the X3M, which is auto only, so it might be compatible with the G80 auto, but not with the manual. Still, the ECU is unlocked and can be flashed with BM3, MHD, raw binary and hopefully Ecutek in the future.

[rashannon81]

Originally Posted by 0Camus0

Just catless DPs, but I am planning to upgrade to full exhaust and Eventuri Intake at some point.

From the logs I can tell that it's about 780 ftlb to the clutch where the slip happens, it's always in higher gears and low RPMs. For instance, the pulls are done always in 4th gear at 2500 RPM, it will slip to 3200 and then come back to 2800 and starts pulling.

Yeah, I think we can do that, but I would rather have the torque. And yes, my plan is to get the FX350, to keep it street friendly, that is exactly my next purchase.

With the clutch keeping the power, it will be closer to low 5s for the 100 km/h to 200 km/h, which is insane, I mean, 6 s flat it's already pretty good for a manual, according to the Auto Top NL 100 to 200 list, it's a bit faster than the 992 911 Turbo S convertible:

https://autotopnl100-200.com/100-200/

On the cloning, the ECUs are from the X3M, which is auto only, so it might be compatible with the G80 auto, but not with the manual. Still, the ECU is unlocked and can be flashed with BM3, MHD, raw binary and hopefully Ecutek in the future.

So 650ish torque at the wheels, probably similar hp.
That's about what I was expecting. Do you have any logs? I'd like to see how fuel pressure is doing and what the ACTUAL limit is.

Lack of cloning only sucks because you lose true flex fuel, OTF map switching and things like that. Makes for a much easier time for a multi-purpose car, but not the end of the world.

People toss around a lot of BS when it comes to BMWs and fueling needs. I.e., n54s needing 2x walboro 455s to make 600whp. And JB4 guys saying the limit is e30@ 650whp.. failing to realize that it's just the fuel trims maxing out and why a piggy back is a pretty terrible option for the informed individual.

How's the traction? Tires?

[0Camus0]

Originally Posted by rashannon81

So 650ish torque at the wheels, probably similar hp.
That's about what I was expecting. Do you have any logs? I'd like to see how fuel pressure is doing and what the ACTUAL limit is.

Lack of cloning only sucks because you lose true flex fuel, OTF map switching and things like that. Makes for a much easier time for a multi-purpose car, but not the end of the world.

People toss around a lot of BS when it comes to BMWs and fueling needs. I.e., n54s needing 2x walboro 455s to make 600whp. And JB4 guys saying the limit is e30@ 650whp.. failing to realize that it's just the fuel trims maxing out and why a piggy back is a pretty terrible option for the informed individual.

How's the traction? Tires?

Hi,

I can't share NVM logs, but I can share the log from the BM3 OTS E30 map:

https://datazap.me/u/000camus000/m4-...23-29-30-32-33

The times I got yesterday with this map was 6.36s 100 km/h to 200 km/h and 7.33s in the 60 mph to 130 mph.

As for the NVM E30 Tune I broke my record and I think as for now, it's the fastest 60 - 130 Manual Transmission M4:

Previous record was from @G80_Soom , with 6.93 with upgraded clutch, full exhaust and Jb4 with E30 as well:

As for the fuel trims, E30 is pretty safe, even in cold days, no issues whatsoever. Can't say the same with E50, the LPFP is giving up, so we are targeting E30 only, maybe E40 as a stretch.

@G80_Soom time is pretty impressive though, it's JB4, but he has full exhaust, intake and upgraded clutch, let's see what times he gets after the flash tune.

> How's the traction? Tires?

Pretty bad, 2nd gear is pretty much useless, I have the stock 20" rear tires with Michelin PS4S 285/30/20. My clutch it's slipping hard in 3rd and 4th gear, you can tell from the log in 3rd, there is a small bump in the RPM and this was the OTS map, with NVM it slips even harder. I'll get the FX400 too.

I am positive that with full exhaust and the upgraded clutch, the time would be 6.5s or even lower.

[destoyan]

Stock M3 G80 Xdrive with Manhart MHTronik (540 whp)

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by destoyan

Stock M3 G80 Xdrive with Manhart MHTronik (540 whp)

wow impressive 540 wheel bone stock on 91 octane???

[eric97hoh]

Originally Posted by M3C_Thanos

Okay i will go be slow somewhere else.


Thanks

these numbers are actually slow for full e85 and port injection people custum tune dial these in to 5.5 5.6 with x dirve low 5s rwd and your invalid on your draggy rough lmao