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We are also seeing targets and mandates for EVs relax, being delayed, or outright cancelled. This is due to multiple reasons, but Toyota is the one now cashing in on their decisions, while the others (except Tesla) are still trying to figure out how to make EVs work. Last edited by Vmaxx; 04-09-2024 at 05:26 PM.. |
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FYI, didn't read your article because it's loaded with click bait ads.
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It's a release from Porsche Newsroom, not an article, so there are zero ads. Volume isn't what I was referring to, who owns huge shares of Rimac is.
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Owning a X3 PHEV and MINI SE, having had a Taycan ST, this news holds zero interest for me.
Petrol will win for the long run, don’t get fooled…
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Just vote w/ your wallet it still has weight
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Demand for ev’s has fallen off a cliff
Not only are manufacturers closing down ev production lines, but some are even cancelling them entirely The saving grace was always Tesla, but I argue customers aren’t buying a Tesla because it’s an ev, but rather buying an ev because it’s a Tesla Regardless, for first time in a couple years, even Tesla saw a 9% drop in sales last quarter The ev utopia is failing, and only reason manufacturers are hanging onto the dream is because Belgium promised them a top down gov forced market where they could make untold profits The fact likes of audi and bmw have released their latest models in multiple drivetrain variants shows even they are hedging And any new ev you see being released today, eg macan, is completely void of reality of demand today, as these are projects that were signed off years ago and now have to come to market to try salvage whatever return they can I see this partnership with rimac as bmw being doubtful the ev mandated market will materialize, otherwise they would invest in in house development for the long term benefits |
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They are all behind Tesla… But now the NACS will possibly change things fast. Tesla’s biggest problem is customer service. As Competition catches up they will have to change their tune superfast.
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I think it’s more for use in their m cars not their series cars
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I don’t know if I would go as far as saying overall EV demand is going off a cliff, I think some EVs are, specifically the more expensive ones. All of Mercedes-Benz EQs sales at least in Canada/GTA have gone completely cold where Mercedes-Benz have dialed back on the allocations and dealers are only expected to sell 10% of their total annual target.
BMW is feeling it a bit as well, but the i4’s are stilll selling well, iX cooled off and XMs are completely non-existent. |
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[QUOTE="///M TOWN;31060017"]That’s fine because Tesla played with the number at the expensive of their core customer so they need to somehow feel it personally and they’ll have to figure out how to rebound accordingly.
If they hadn’t have done that, I probably would be driving a new one right now, but I’m not. “That’s the screwing they get, for the screwing they got” And nothing last forever. I have no idea what you’re trying to say guy The early adopters have already saturated the market, look up the stat of how many first time Tesla owners actually repeat purchase, the business model is not sustainable, but Tesla owners all seem to need other people to confirmation bias their own purchase There is no rebound, the early adopters are no more, the free gov money subsidies have all but dried up globally, and the used ev market is non existent |
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Already piped in to plenty of ‘true ICE’ vehicles already, including some ICE BMWs, so not sure the shade is going where you intended it to. Folks still be buying….(hi to all the true M owners with their piped-in exhaust sounds…..they still buy them, just saying)….
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Pretty sure BMW, amongst others, have a healthy market elsewhere, including in the ultra-strict EU. The US has a history of ‘cough overcompensation cough’ that miraculously the rest of the world hasn’t been impacted with sales. Online forums love to talk & bitch and blame big brother, the cash shows the facts though. They’ll be just fine.
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February’s #’s doesn’t make the future I’d personally rather suck glass through a straw than drive any Toyota
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BMW was smart to diversify their line up while still primarily being ICE-focused when everyone was saying they were so behind the EV game. I guess they really knew what they were doing. |
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