04-19-2022, 07:07 PM | #1 |
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BMW Gen 3 Level 2 Charger delayed for months
My dad recently sold his 2019 Model X and moved back into a BMW with the X5 45e. We have 2 Tesla level 2 chargers installed in the garage for the Model X and a Model 3.
We placed the order for the X5 45e back in mid-February, and had been actively shopping for the car since January. At that time, there were almost none on lots within 50 miles of me in Orange County, and we knew that we wanted a custom order anyways. The BMW USA site said that the Gen 3 Level 2 wall charger would be out in Spring of 2022. Perfect, we thought. The vehicle arrived and we picked it up, and I called up EV Pros, who had done the install of our Tesla wall chargers and breakers (by the way, I massively recommend them for anyone interested in EV charging installs in Orange County, they were incredibly professional and both installations they have done are top notch). I then called BMW Irvine and BMW USA, who both confirmed that not only was the BMW site (which still showed the charger coming out in Spring of 2022) wrong, but that they had no information about when the charger would be released. The best I could get from BMW USA was that it may come out in Q4 of 2022. Luckily, this isn't a pure electric vehicle, but this is a huge problem. How is BMW 6 months behind on releasing this product, and why are dealers not addressing that upfront. I can't speak for the iX, i4, etc. buyers, but I can't imagine they are happy to buy a car without a wall box. The best solution BMW offered was a $500 220v cable which would require installing a new outlet which would have to be replaced again when the wall box was introduced. Personally, I think this is a pretty big failure on BMW's part to communicate. Have any of you had a similar experience with BMW charging products? |
04-19-2022, 07:24 PM | #2 |
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Why on earth would you buy the BMW wall-box when you can get the same functionality from dozens available on Amazon for much less? What is the magic in a BMW charger? Electricity is electricity. Or just buy an adapter for your Tesla box. The best your PHEV can do is Level 2 anyway.
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04-19-2022, 08:06 PM | #3 |
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This is why I have zero plans to get an EV in the near future.
Also China controls the rare earths that are required ti make EV batteries. The push to EVs is premature in my opinion. |
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04-19-2022, 08:50 PM | #4 | |
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OP - literally dozens of companies product J1772 L2 chargers. Ten minutes of research can prepare any owner into PHEV or BEV. |
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04-19-2022, 10:49 PM | #7 | |
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The notion around specific minerals being only associated to China isn't accurate. The US has a mine as done Canada if the industry wants to stay focused on leveraging said minerals for motors. Primary battery tech leverages lithium and cobalt, neither of which are rare earth, nor are single sourced from China. Here's a decent read. https://www.greenbiz.com/article/myth-and-reality-alternatives-rare-minerals-ev-batteries |
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04-20-2022, 02:41 PM | #9 | |
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I've now ordered an adapter for the Tesla wall unit, which is all I need. My consternation is primarily with BMW continuing to represent that a product which is 6+ months away from being released is going to come out this quarter. |
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04-20-2022, 03:24 PM | #10 | |
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Apologies if I can across brash! TOO many new folks dipping into PHEV/BEV aren't as knowledgeable. Did you flip from Tesla to PHEV or do you have both? Side by side chargers here - J1772 for her, HPWC for me. |
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04-20-2022, 03:32 PM | #11 | |
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Next was a Volvo XC90 T8, which drove fantastic for an SUV (the twin charged engine, while not super powerful, was very fun to drive with the supercharger whine at full throttle). However the infotainment system felt like it was 5 years out of date the day I purchased the car new. That car was actually lemon-lawed and bought back by the manufacturer because the hybrid drive completely failed twice. It was replaced once under warranty with a parts cost of about 22,000, and then had numerous visits to the dealer for the same error which they tried to correct with software every time. If memory serves, the car ended up in service 73 days in the first 13 months of ownership. Now, I am in my M2, and it is my dad who has the X5 45e in question. We took delivery last Friday, so I can't really say much about it yet, except that it looks fantastic with the M-sport package, blue exterior, and night package. |
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04-20-2022, 04:22 PM | #12 | |
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We picked up our 45e last month, which I'm incredibly impressed with the electric range considering its having to work through a traditional ICE driveline. To make matters worse, after driving a 90D for a few years I've forgotten how nice interiors can be. Neighbor has an M2, PCD had an epic M3, and here I am doubting owning a BEV. |
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The extreme cost of that repair is largely due to the design of the system: the rear axle and electric motor are a singe combined unit that have to be removed and replaced. For the time being, I still love my M2. I specifically bought it in mid-2020 as what could be my last gas-powered, turbo charged, loud daily. I tend to keep my cars for a fairly long time, and the rate of electric advancement is such that I wanted to wait at least 3 or 4 years for the technology to progress before I bought an electric. |
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https://www.baum-bmwshop24.de/bmw-wa...ion/?locale=en Perhaps one could order this from Germany and get an electrician to install. |
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