[MCM4]

Originally Posted by blinkme323

Test drove a CT4V BW yesterday and immediately put down a deposit. The MT in this thing is amazing and honestly blows anything else I've driven out of the water. I would absolutely give this an edge over the M3/M4 Pure, which is saying a lot, because I love that car.

When I ordered my CT5-V Blackwing in September, the dealer had one of each on display. I did not even sit in the 4. But by all accounts it is the better daily driver. Regardless, the comparisons of the manual tranny in this CT4-V to the M3/M4 are universally in favor of the Tremec. You gotta take reviews with grains of salt, but nobody complains about the CT4-V.

What color did you order?

[z335is]

Originally Posted by MCM4

When I ordered my CT5-V Blackwing in September, the dealer had one of each on display. I did not even sit in the 4. But by all accounts it is the better daily driver. Regardless, the comparisons of the manual tranny in this CT4-V to the M3/M4 are universally in favor of the Tremec. You gotta take reviews with grains of salt, but nobody complains about the CT4-V.

What color did you order?

Yeah the CT4 Tremec is in another class of its own

[blinkme323]

Originally Posted by MCM4

When I ordered my CT5-V Blackwing in September, the dealer had one of each on display. I did not even sit in the 4. But by all accounts it is the better daily driver. Regardless, the comparisons of the manual tranny in this CT4-V to the M3/M4 are universally in favor of the Tremec. You gotta take reviews with grains of salt, but nobody complains about the CT4-V.

What color did you order?

My initial thought was black, but I ended up settling on orange.

[Kick 6]

I was really shocked at the speed of the new CTV-5 BW. The one I saw was new and it either had a lot of mods or the HP is rated a lot lower than what it actually is. I'm a Bimmer guy, but that car can fly!

[YamaLink]

I've been passenger in friend's new CT5BW.
I don't need a 4 door. I don't want a car that big. I don't have the MSRP cash he paid. Having said that, if I could find a 5BW today for msrp I'd cancel my M4CX that lands in California in two days. I'm a V8 and supercharger fan, not really an American car type, but O. M. G. I'd hit it. As a daily driver for me (no kids, no passengers, work from home, yadda yadda), it is basically my Hellcat/GT350/old V6 supercharged SUV combo weirdo dreams combined but in a tuxedo. The CT5 Blackwing is absolutely wrong for me, and I want it. 'Merica!

[MCM4]

Originally Posted by YamaLink

I've been passenger in friend's new CT5BW.
I don't need a 4 door. I don't want a car that big. I don't have the MSRP cash he paid. Having said that, if I could find a 5BW today for msrp I'd cancel my M4CX that lands in California in two days. I'm a V8 and supercharger fan, not really an American car type, but O. M. G. I'd hit it. As a daily driver for me (no kids, no passengers, work from home, yadda yadda), it is basically my Hellcat/GT350/old V6 supercharged SUV combo weirdo dreams combined but in a tuxedo. The CT5 Blackwing is absolutely wrong for me, and I want it. 'Merica!

How about the sound... amazing, right?

My 4 is in for PPF and tint. Should ship to me early next week. I still have a 5 on order, and am optimistic it becomes a '23 Anniversary build, but not holding my breath on that.

[ChrisM4]

I've owned three caddy's the best being a CTS-V Wagon with a manual. They are great cars and the performance is strong for sure. The interior of the G80/82 is much nicer though.

I wouldn't really compare the CT4 V Blackwing as it's a smaller car, slower and has a less refined V6 engine compared to the S58.

I think the CT5 V BW is a better comparison, though it's quite a bit bigger and I personally find the exterior design not as nice.

The SC'd V8 TR6060 combo is an amazing drivetrain and very mod friendly. It's basically bulletproof and will live a long time.

I cross shopped the three models before buying my BSM 2021 M4 manual. No regrets whatsoever with my decision and I've owned a TON of GM vehicles in the past. (CTS V wagon, ATS, Corvette, various F-bodies etc.)

Cheers,
Chris

[MCM4]

I agree w your points Chris. The Caddy is slower, less refined, and certainly not the interior offered by the BMW. But the rawness adds to the emotion of driving. Certainly not nearly as "perfect" as the BMW. I hope to keep 1 Blackwing 6MT and the M4 Comp x if it ever arrives. But having driven an M4 on 3 different occasions, I'll go w the Blackwing for driving enjoyment and the BMW when my wife comes along.

[M370z]

Originally Posted by ChrisM4

I've owned three caddy's the best being a CTS-V Wagon with a manual. They are great cars and the performance is strong for sure. The interior of the G80/82 is much nicer though.

I wouldn't really compare the CT4 V Blackwing as it's a smaller car, slower and has a less refined V6 engine compared to the S58.

I think the CT5 V BW is a better comparison, though it's quite a bit bigger and I personally find the exterior design not as nice.

The SC'd V8 TR6060 combo is an amazing drivetrain and very mod friendly. It's basically bulletproof and will live a long time.

I cross shopped the three models before buying my BSM 2021 M4 manual. No regrets whatsoever with my decision and I've owned a TON of GM vehicles in the past. (CTS V wagon, ATS, Corvette, various F-bodies etc.)

Cheers,
Chris

I wouldn't say it's slower by any means. The CT4v BW easily outlaps the base M3 and even holds its own against the x-drive. That said, can't go wrong either way.

[ChrisM4]

Originally Posted by M370z

I wouldn't say it's slower by any means. The CT4v BW easily outlaps the base M3 and even holds its own against the x-drive. That said, can't go wrong either way.

Sorry lapping yes it might be a bit slower but I was referring to acceleration times.

I never lap more than 7-8/10ths anyways so it's a bit of a moot point for me. My use case is 99% daily driving, 1% drag strip / lapping. The manual base M4 has about 3mph trap speed over the CT4 V BW manual based on what I've seen in real life.

Don't get me wrong I love all three cars and I think the manual versions are the best in their respective segments. People should snap these up while they are still being made.

Cheers,
Chris