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      02-08-2022, 09:18 AM   #1
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Arrow Pics of Vossen HF-5 Hybrid Forged Sqaure Setup

The guys from Basic Performance Korea just posted this, they mounted a square set of Vossen HF-5's on their G80 M3.

Specs are 20x10.5 ET10 all around, with 295/30/20 tires.

Looks perfect IMO, nice meaty stance all around.

Car is lowered on KW V4 coilovers.
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I would question how the steering feel is with such a wide front tire
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I love it but then again Im biased with the same wheels on my, god forbid, Plaid:

But 21's

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I love it but then again Im biased with the same wheels on my, god forbid, Plaid:

But 21's

That looks dope! I think I'll go with HF-5's in Gold when my Velvet Blue M3 arrives.
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That looks dope! I think I'll go with HF-5's in Gold when my Velvet Blue M3 arrives.
I know there are more expensive and lighter wheels but these took just about 5 weeks (including the Xmas closure week) to obtain and I saved around 3lbs a corner vs the new Plaid Forged Arachnids.

I dont keep cars long so I just wanted a custom build that could carry the weight load and look great. I mean who are we kidding on a 1020 hp/1050 tq car about a few lbs in unsprung weight.

I like their look on that IOM G80 alot. I think they weigh in the upper 20's for 20 inchers.
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The guys from Basic Performance Korea just posted this, they mounted a square set of Vossen HF-5's on their G80 M3.

Specs are 20x10.5 ET10 all around, with 295/30/20 tires.

Looks perfect IMO, nice meaty stance all around.

Car is lowered on KW V4 coilovers.
I do not understand how you can have 20” wheels with 295s in the front and not have it rub? I’m more confused than ever. How wide are your wheels?

It looks completely awesome by the way.
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I do not understand how you can have 20” wheels with 295s in the front and not have it rub? I’m more confused than ever. How wide are your wheels?

It looks completely awesome by the way.
I dont think thats his car, he was just posting.

I do think 295's are possible though because I have 275's stock and have room for 18 mm spacers with no rubbing (Im on 15's). From a diameter aspect they just did a plus size on the tire profile to keep the same or close diameter (assumption here of course)
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Here's my xDrive G80
Front: 20x9.5 ET 10
Rear 20x10.5 ET 10
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The guys from Basic Performance Korea just posted this, they mounted a square set of Vossen HF-5's on their G80 M3.

Specs are 20x10.5 ET10 all around, with 295/30/20 tires.

Looks perfect IMO, nice meaty stance all around.

Car is lowered on KW V4 coilovers.
Awesome setup, but I doubt this is rub free.
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What tire size are you running?



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Here's my xDrive G80
Front: 20x9.5 ET 10
Rear 20x10.5 ET 10
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what tire size are you running?



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here's my xdrive g80
front: 20x9.5 et 10
rear 20x10.5 et 10
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what tire size are you running?



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here's my xdrive g80
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Looks good. It looks a little wide, for me, but good job avoiding showing us the YMB interior, at least. If it's the Korean guys car, is it wfydaniel car.
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I love the look (and if that actually works without rubbing, it should answer my question as to whether I could run square 19x10.5 wheels with 285/35/19 square without any rubbing at all...), but isn't that set-up essentially an inch-thick spacer up front (in terms of moving the outside of the wheel outward), with a slightly larger tire diameter too?? Wow, if that clears everything cleanly...
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I love the look (and if that actually works without rubbing, it should answer my question as to whether I could run square 19x10.5 wheels with 285/35/19 square without any rubbing at all...), but isn't that set-up essentially an inch-thick spacer up front (in terms of moving the outside of the wheel outward), with a slightly larger tire diameter too?? Wow, if that clears everything cleanly...
I really doubt that this setup isnt rubbing hard without modification of the fender lining. Especially with that thicc semi they chose.
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I love the look (and if that actually works without rubbing, it should answer my question as to whether I could run square 19x10.5 wheels with 285/35/19 square without any rubbing at all...), but isn't that set-up essentially an inch-thick spacer up front (in terms of moving the outside of the wheel outward), with a slightly larger tire diameter too?? Wow, if that clears everything cleanly...
Yes, it is equivalent to running a stock 9.5 inch wheel with a 23mm spacer in terms of outter clearance.

In terms of inner clearance its only 2.7mm closer to the strut, so no issues there.

The bigger mystery I am trying to solve is whether people can genuinely run a stock rear rim (20x10.5 ET20) on the front - which some claim to have done without a spacer. This reduces inner clearance by 12.5mm, far more than the setup in this post.

If, the car in the post gets away with its setup AND people have run a stock rear rim on the back, I'm going to start getting excited about a 19x11 square track setup at ET14 , as the aforementioned combination suggests its possible.

*Note, with a track car I'd be winding on plenty of extra camber so can work around outter clearance issues.
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Yes, it is equivalent to running a stock 9.5 inch wheel with a 23mm spacer in terms of outter clearance.

In terms of inner clearance its only 2.7mm closer to the strut, so no issues there.

The bigger mystery I am trying to solve is whether people can genuinely run a stock rear rim (20x10.5 ET20) on the front - which some claim to have done without a spacer. This reduces inner clearance by 12.5mm, far more than the setup in this post.

If, the car in the post gets away with its setup AND people have run a stock rear rim on the back, I'm going to start getting excited about a 19x11 square track setup at ET14 , as the aforementioned combination suggests its possible.

*Note, with a track car I'd be winding on plenty of extra camber so can work around outter clearance issues.
This is certainly getting interesting... but I'm still surprised by what people are saying fits. It also seems to have a lot to do with the exact tires used, and the relationship of tire width to rim width (which I'm learning more and more, really affects how much room the sidewall takes up, and the diameter of the mounted tire.)

I'm running 19x9.5 et 22 VMRs for my winter set up, with Wintrac Pro 275/35/19 snow tires, on all corners. The tires have a lot of rubber protecting the rim - much thicker than the oem summers - and with the wheel 2mm closer to the strut and the thicker sidewall, I can't even squeeze a pinky between the sidewall and the strut. So some of these other set-ups that are a 1/2 inch+ closer to the strut, I just don't get it.

That being said, as to outside clearance, looking at my winter set-up tonight, I can definitely see how there's an inch or so of room to work with, on the outside.
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Yes, it is equivalent to running a stock 9.5 inch wheel with a 23mm spacer in terms of outter clearance.

In terms of inner clearance its only 2.7mm closer to the strut, so no issues there.

The bigger mystery I am trying to solve is whether people can genuinely run a stock rear rim (20x10.5 ET20) on the front - which some claim to have done without a spacer. This reduces inner clearance by 12.5mm, far more than the setup in this post.

If, the car in the post gets away with its setup AND people have run a stock rear rim on the back, I'm going to start getting excited about a 19x11 square track setup at ET14 , as the aforementioned combination suggests its possible.

*Note, with a track car I'd be winding on plenty of extra camber so can work around outter clearance issues.
It does fit. I tested it and there was enough room with the 10.5j ET20 rear wheel up front.
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It does fit. I tested it and there was enough room with the 10.5j ET20 rear wheel up front.
That is great to hear! Thanks for the confirmation.

Care to estimate how many mm's there was between the rim and the strut with the 10.5?
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Yes, it is equivalent to running a stock 9.5 inch wheel with a 23mm spacer in terms of outter clearance.

In terms of inner clearance its only 2.7mm closer to the strut, so no issues there.

The bigger mystery I am trying to solve is whether people can genuinely run a stock rear rim (20x10.5 ET20) on the front - which some claim to have done without a spacer. This reduces inner clearance by 12.5mm, far more than the setup in this post.

If, the car in the post gets away with its setup AND people have run a stock rear rim on the back, I'm going to start getting excited about a 19x11 square track setup at ET14 , as the aforementioned combination suggests its possible.

*Note, with a track car I'd be winding on plenty of extra camber so can work around outter clearance issues.
I’m not much of a betting man because betting can get out of control however if I was I would bet a considerable amount of money that the green car posted above with 295’s and 10.5” wide wheels in the front is practically undrivable due to extreme rubbing when braking or driving even slightly aggressive. There is no way that works. Isn’t it time we consider as a group to admit the BMW engineers put the wheels on the stock vehicle the way they did for a reason? I understand the stock car wheels are more inside the wheel well because of laws and that affects the aesthetics so we all know it’s mechanically safe as well as aesthetically pleasing to bring the wheels out towards the fender but that’s different than significantly increasing the width of the wheel and tire. I wonder how many people are going to spend a bloody fortune on custom wheels for their G8X only to put them on and be horrified during their first drive? This is going to turn out to be a financial disaster for many people if they’re not careful.
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It does fit. I tested it and there was enough room with the 10.5j ET20 rear wheel up front.
Yeah? Cool. How does it drive especially when driving aggressively?
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Yeah? Cool. How does it drive especially when driving aggressively?
I didnt drive it. Only testfit on my friends M4.
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