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      06-08-2021, 11:01 AM   #1
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I hear the G8x is a mini-M5, though.

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Funny guy this Steve, I actually like him. What also is funny that when BMW always lost in these track battles, it was a worse car because it lost. Now its the worse car in almost all possible ways, even if it won.
Does this make sense or is there some bias?
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Funny guy this Steve, I actually like him. What also is funny that when BMW always lost in these track battles, it was a worse car because it lost. Now its the worse car in almost all possible ways, even if it won.
Does this make sense or is there some bias?
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Funny guy this Steve, I actually like him. What also is funny that when BMW always lost in these track battles, it was a worse car because it lost. Now its the worse car in almost all possible ways, even if it won.
Does this make sense or is there some bias?
I really don't think it's bias as he's pretty complementary of the M4 which has the disadvantage of being based on a passenger car while the GT4 is riding on a dedicated sports car chassis. I would wager you could drop any of us in these two cars on the track and the GT4 would probably come off as more fun to most of us based on it being smaller, lighter, and feeling closer to a race car. The M4 manages to be a little quicker around the track while being far more livable as a daily driver so for most of us would be the car to own if you could only own one car. Another thing of note is that GT4 is going to feel a lot slower on the street than the M4 as it needs to be pushed to high RPM for motivation as in the words of Car & Driver "it's a little dull at low revs".

Different track but a manual GT4 is neck and neck with a C8 Corvette so it's pretty clear the G8x can hang with the big dogs which is something you couldn't really say about the F8x cars.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...18-cayman-gt4/
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I really don't think it's bias as he's pretty complementary of the M4 which has the disadvantage of being based on a passenger car while the GT4 is riding on a dedicated sports car chassis. I would wager you could drop any of us in these two cars on the track and the GT4 would probably come off as more fun to most of us based on it being smaller, lighter, and feeling closer to a race car. The M4 manages to be a little quicker around the track while being far more livable as a daily driver so for most of us would be the car to own if you could only own one car. Another thing of note is that GT4 is going to feel a lot slower on the street than the M4 as it needs to be pushed to high RPM for motivation as in the words of Car & Driver "it's a little dull at low revs".

Different track but a manual GT4 is neck and neck with a C8 Corvette so it's pretty clear the G8x can hang with the big dogs which is something you couldn't really say about the F8x cars.

https://www.caranddriver.com/reviews...18-cayman-gt4/
I think if you broke down the lap, likely the capabilities are much higher on the turns in the GT4 but the massive power and torque advantages of the M4 show on the straights very well. Very similar to how a Panamera turbo can run the same 7:28 on the N'Ring as a GT4 despite being so much heavier, but also makes so much more power...on top of that the suspension and tire developments in recent years show you can take a large car and mask the weight well. Beyond that, I bet if Steve Sutcliffe were to do 10 or 20 laps, the GT4 will be more consistent and pull further and further ahead the longer it goes. Hero laps don't always tell you much...
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