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      10-20-2020, 07:04 PM   #199
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
Why are you obsessed with trying to label me? You literally can't comprehend that people like me love this design. It's stunning. I cannot wait to own this car and I'm so glad it doesn't look like the M8 or M5, which are both very boring designs now as they've been out for a while; this car makes them look ancient!

It's objectively a terribly boring render of an already incredible looking car, trying to make it look like all the current older models. There I can make opinions become facts as well

You never answered my question either, do you plan to buy either the new M3 or M4? I'm gonna guess no; so not sure why you're even here?
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I can’t wait to see what IND comes out with!

New front bumpers will be the new painted side markers just more $$$ lol

Either way - everyone will be happy.
Those that like the huge grill can rock it with pride and those that prefer more conservative look now have a great solution to stay with BMW. I’m sure my local dealer would be happy to install the “face lift” mod.
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
Why are you obsessed with trying to label me? You literally can't comprehend that people like me love this design. It's stunning. I cannot wait to own this car and I'm so glad it doesn't look like the M8 or M5, which are both very boring designs now as they've been out for a while; this car makes them look ancient!

It's objectively a terribly boring render of an already incredible looking car, trying to make it look like all the current older models. There I can make opinions become facts as well

You never answered my question either, do you plan to buy either the new M3 or M4? I'm gonna guess no; so not sure why you're even here?
Pretty sure their's no requirement to be a likely-buyer to comment on upcoming models and modifications...
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
Why are you obsessed with trying to label me? You literally can't comprehend that people like me love this design. It's stunning. I cannot wait to own this car and I'm so glad it doesn't look like the M8 or M5, which are both very boring designs now as they've been out for a while; this car makes them look ancient!

It's objectively a terribly boring render of an already incredible looking car, trying to make it look like all the current older models. There I can make opinions become facts as well

You never answered my question either, do you plan to buy either the new M3 or M4? I'm gonna guess no; so not sure why you're even here?
Pretty sure their's no requirement to be a likely-buyer to comment on upcoming models and modifications...
True, there isn't, but your opinion literally means nothing if you're not.
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
Why are you obsessed with trying to label me? You literally can't comprehend that people like me love this design. It's stunning. I cannot wait to own this car and I'm so glad it doesn't look like the M8 or M5, which are both very boring designs now as they've been out for a while; this car makes them look ancient!

It's objectively a terribly boring render of an already incredible looking car, trying to make it look like all the current older models. There I can make opinions become facts as well

You never answered my question either, do you plan to buy either the new M3 or M4? I'm gonna guess no; so not sure why you're even here?
Pretty sure their's no requirement to be a likely-buyer to comment on upcoming models and modifications...
True, there isn't, but your opinion literally means nothing if you're not.
Oh you live in a world in which your claimed intent to buy the car makes you an authority, cute
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For real. Some people on here are delusional.
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
You don't understand the word objectively. I think the original is great and dislike the render. You feel the opposite, both of those statements are subjective.
Congrats, you disagree with about 90% of this forum

Anyway, when I do get my hands on a G80 I will definitely be getting a redesigned bumper.
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
Why are you obsessed with trying to label me? You literally can't comprehend that people like me love this design. It's stunning. I cannot wait to own this car and I'm so glad it doesn't look like the M8 or M5, which are both very boring designs now as they've been out for a while; this car makes them look ancient!

It's objectively a terribly boring render of an already incredible looking car, trying to make it look like all the current older models. There I can make opinions become facts as well

You never answered my question either, do you plan to buy either the new M3 or M4? I'm gonna guess no; so not sure why you're even here?
Am I wrong though?
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
You don't understand the word objectively. I think the original is great and dislike the render. You feel the opposite, both of those statements are subjective.
Congrats, you disagree with about 90% of this forum
Correct. My "subjective" opinion is contrary the the "subjective" opinion of a large percentage of people. Fully understand that not everyone agrees with me and I don't think my opinion is worth more or less than anyone else's. It's a polarizing design. You don't like it, and that makes sense to me. I happen to love it, and you just can't wrap your head around it.


Congrats on handling yourself like a gentleman.
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
You don't understand the word objectively. I think the original is great and dislike the render. You feel the opposite, both of those statements are subjective.
Congrats, you disagree with about 90% of this forum
Correct. My "subjective" opinion is contrary the the "subjective" opinion of a large percentage of people. Fully understand that not everyone agrees with me and I don't think my opinion is worth more or less than anyone else's. It's a polarizing design. You don't like it, and that makes sense to me. I happen to love it, and you just can't wrap your head around it.


Congrats on handling yourself like a gentleman.
You're reading way too deep into this. I could care less about your opinion.

Ask any person with experience in auto design, they will agree the OEM bumper is an insult to coherent design language.

You can have your opinions, but your opinion doesn't outweigh the majority nor actual auto designers.
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
You don't understand the word objectively. I think the original is great and dislike the render. You feel the opposite, both of those statements are subjective.
Congrats, you disagree with about 90% of this forum
Correct. My "subjective" opinion is contrary the the "subjective" opinion of a large percentage of people. Fully understand that not everyone agrees with me and I don't think my opinion is worth more or less than anyone else's. It's a polarizing design. You don't like it, and that makes sense to me. I happen to love it, and you just can't wrap your head around it.


Congrats on handling yourself like a gentleman.
You're reading way too deep into this. I could care less about your opinion.
That's the point. You think you're so right that you consider your opinion to be an "objective one."

Try and respect the varying viewpoints of other forum members please.
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Why is everyone so scared of change? Go buy an M8 if you like that boring front end.
Good taste apparently means "scared of change"

Must be a liberal
Why are Americans obsessed with labeling people? If good taste means boring and the same, then yes; you're scared of change.

Are you even buying a new M3 or M4?
Buddy, your butthurt is showing through the screen. To me it seems you're 'scared' of differing opinions.

Objectively, the improvement is drastic between the original G80 front end and this potential render. You're simply labeling something good-looking as "boring" and "same", likely because you're a new-age progressive who wants to stand out in any way possible, even if it means sacrificing coherent design language.

The M8 isn't even boring. It's also over $130k USD
You don't understand the word objectively. I think the original is great and dislike the render. You feel the opposite, both of those statements are subjective.
Congrats, you disagree with about 90% of this forum
Correct. My "subjective" opinion is contrary the the "subjective" opinion of a large percentage of people. Fully understand that not everyone agrees with me and I don't think my opinion is worth more or less than anyone else's. It's a polarizing design. You don't like it, and that makes sense to me. I happen to love it, and you just can't wrap your head around it.


Congrats on handling yourself like a gentleman.
You're reading way too deep into this. I could care less about your opinion.
That's the point. You think you're so right that you consider your opinion to be an "objective one."

Try and respect the varying viewpoints of other forum members please.
Says the guy who thinks his opinion is more correct than the majority.

Hint that's where the word objective comes from. This bumper is objectively better because the majority agrees. There is no other deciding factor.

I respect opinions worth respecting personally.
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Correct. My "subjective" opinion is contrary the the "subjective" opinion of a large percentage of people. Fully understand that not everyone agrees with me and I don't think my opinion is worth more or less than anyone else's. It's a polarizing design. You don't like it, and that makes sense to me. I happen to love it, and you just can't wrap your head around it.


Congrats on handling yourself like a gentleman.
Right, way to try to walk back on your stance. Weren't you the one that brought up the poll to back up your "subjective opinion" that since at that time more than half the vote liked or loved it, your "subjective opinion" some how weighs more than others that will buy the G8x and upgrade to this better new front end?

Also despite all the people banned from the main forum, the poll just tipped the balance to more dislike and strongly dislike. What should you use now?
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1760978

You love it, great, but you are the minority, accept that.
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Correct. My "subjective" opinion is contrary the the "subjective" opinion of a large percentage of people. Fully understand that not everyone agrees with me and I don't think my opinion is worth more or less than anyone else's. It's a polarizing design. You don't like it, and that makes sense to me. I happen to love it, and you just can't wrap your head around it.


Congrats on handling yourself like a gentleman.
Right, way to try to walk back on your stance. Weren't you the one that brought up the poll to back up your "subjective opinion" that since at that time more than half the vote liked or loved it, your "subjective opinion" some how weighs more than others that will buy the G8x and upgrade to this better new front end?

Also despite all the people banned from the main forum, the poll just tipped the balance to more dislike and strongly dislike. What should you use now?
https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1760978

You love it, great, but you are the minority, accept that.
This is the last thing I'll say to you:

You're taking my earlier post out of context. A member basically stated that we would all be switching to the aftermarket bumper because none of us could resist the temptation to do so, and none of us really liked the new design. I thought, and still think, that was the most ridiculous statement. Some of us legitimately like it, hard as that is to believe.

I cited a poll. Contrary opinions certainly were made clearer subsequent to that post and I acknowledged the scientific basis of the poll was unsound. I am happy to admit when I'm wrong. Still like the new design and realize I'm in the minority and still respect your opinion and everyone else's.
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The new design is controversial that people are fighting over it on the internet and getting personal about it



Not completely a fan of the new design, but these redesigned bumpers look bland in comparison
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Not completely a fan of the new design, but these redesigned bumpers look bland in comparison
At least BMW has people talking about their cars instead of drolling over a Tesla. Trying to look at the positive for them. That's all I got.

The problem as I see it is many won't buy the car. Sure their are some that want an in your face ///M car. I kinda get it even if that's not my style but the implementation is just plain bad IMO.

Everyone should let Frankie, Sedan Clan, Solstice and a Few other enjoy this car because no one else is gonna buy it

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This! 100%

Tbh, the new front end is hideous! To this day, I still can't get over how terrible it looks.
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      10-21-2020, 07:06 AM   #219
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I just need a clean hood. I can work with the grills, eventually.
Yeah I agree, I’m not a huge fan of the hood. I still haven’t seen it in person, but for me this is the least thing I like about the design.
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Good lord. It is what it is! BMW doesn't give a rats ass what any of you think and they will still sell a crazy number of them. Us "purists" on this forum are a miniscule fraction of their audience, and, probably not even squarely in the crosshairs of their "target" audience. If you don't like it, then just let it go and find something else! Christ... the grill, the steering wheel, the hood, the bumper, the electronic dash... F'ing ridiculous.
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