[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Thescout13

While the 992 is a better car then the 991 overall, it didn't have as much of a jump in performance as we have seen in the past for the S. For example, the 991.1 S was faster around the ring than the 997 GTS and then the 991.2 S was faster than the 991.1 GTS, but the current 992 S is a bit slower than the 991.2 GTS.

This is not true completely. The 991.2GTS ran 7:23 on previous genCup tires, same as what the M4 was on (except the M4's were newer generation). The 992S on the same tires would be right around the .2 GTS time of 7:23 which is absurdly fast for a car with only 440 hp.

[HeelToeShift]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

I recognize that, and Thescout13 already touched on that. I can read. It's still an impressive feat to be that close to a "dedicated" sports car.

I saw that after I posted. Yes, he did but he also stated the .2 GTS is faster than the 992S, which on the same tires it is not, which I just posted about. The M4 does have a better power to weight ratio too...

[Thescout13]

Originally Posted by HeelToeShift

I saw that after I posted. Yes, he did but he also stated the .2 GTS is faster than the 992S, which on the same tires it is not, which I just posted about. The M4 does have a better power to weight ratio too...

Do you have evidence of a time that shows the 991.2 GTS is in fact slower on the ring then the a 992 C2S that has modern Cup 2s? Or are you guesstimating? As this thread proves, guesstimating about a cars time can be wrong.

Regardless, I was doing the comparison stock offering to stock offering of the prior Gen. Cup tires were a configurable options on the 991.2 GTS if I recall correctly whereas they aren't on the 992S.

[Kuervers]

Same time as first Gen gt4 with 385hp .

[02M3ForMe]

Originally Posted by Kuervers

Same time as first Gen gt4 with 385hp .

?

Where do you see that? I see the G82 Comp RWD beating it by 11 seconds.

[AHall]

F90 on P Zero tires

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by McLaren720s

Here's the list of Sport Auto times for BMW:

8:05 E92 M3 6MT (PSC+)
7:52 F82 M4 DCT (PSS)
7:52,36 F87 M2C DCT (???)
7:50 E46 M3CSL SMG (PSC)
7:43 F87 M2CS DCT (PSC2)
7:42 F82 M4CS DCT (PSC2)
7:37 F82 M4GTS DCT (PSC2)
7:35,90 F90 M5C (P Zero)
7:32,79 G15 M8C (P Zero)
7:30,79 G82 M4C (PSC2)
7:29,57 F90 M5CS (P Zero Corsa)

Other notable mentions:

7:46,70 Porsche 718 Cayman S (???)
7:45,19 Mercedes-AMG E 63 S (???)
7:34,00 Porsche 911 Carrera S (991.2) (???)
7:30,41 Porsche 911 Carrera S (992) (Pirelli P Zero NA1)
7:27,48 Ferrari 812 Superfast (P Zero Corsa)
7:23,77 Porsche 911 Carrera GTS (991.2) (???)

I don't see the full car list, except if you want to go to their YouTube channel and grab each cars individual lap time and compile a list.

Nice table👍
Thanks for sharing.
M8C is F92 BTW

[McLaren720s]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

Nice table👍
Thanks for sharing.
M8C is F92 BTW

Fixed! Thanks for pointing that out!

[GOLFFRR]

wow thats pretty fast. should be able to easily get to the grocery store with time to spare now.

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by McLaren720s

Fixed! Thanks for pointing that out!

No problem
Im wondering if M8C with MPSS or MP4S can go sub 7:30 !
M8C is lighter , 4" shorter , 3" less height and lower center of gravity than M5CS. It's also faster in 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 miles

[NorCalAthlete]

Originally Posted by GOLFFRR

wow thats pretty fast. should be able to easily get to the grocery store with time to spare now.

You might even have to wait a moment for your Starbucks order to be ready before you can pick it up.

[uniqueMR]

[solstice]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

No problem
Im wondering if M8C with MPSS or MP4S can go sub 7:30 !
M8C is lighter , 4" shorter , 3" less height and lower center of gravity than M5CS. It's also faster in 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 miles

I’m curious myself why BMW put Pirellis on the MxDrive cars(Zero or Zero Corsa) they lend for the supertest. Is PSC2 not as good on AWD cars? Anyone know if there is a performance reason to use Pirellis over Michelins on AWD cars? I see some of the Lambos on the fast list also use Pirellis, that can be a Viva Italia thing though I guess

[M6-Coupe]

Originally Posted by solstice

I'm curious myself why BMW put Pirellis on the MxDrive cars(Zero or Zero Corsa) they lend for the supertest. Is PSC2 not as good on AWD cars? Anyone know if there is a performance reason to use Pirellis over Michelins on AWD cars? I see some of the Lambos on the fast list also use Pirellis, that can be a Viva Italia thing though I guess

They put different tires. For exanple on M8 they put Pzero and and MP4S.
Mine came with MP4S.

[brava09]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

No problem
Im wondering if M8C with MPSS or MP4S can go sub 7:30 !
M8C is lighter , 4" shorter , 3" less height and lower center of gravity than M5CS. It's also faster in 0-60, 0-100 and 1/4 miles

M8C coupe is 75kg heavier than the M5 CS, as per the BMW official website www.bmw.de

Actually is also 5 kg heavier than a M5c

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by Vic55

And I firmly believe color has to do with the amazing time LOLOL

Damn that's a hot car.

[solstice]

Originally Posted by M6-Coupe

They put different tires. For exanple on M8 they put Pzero and and MP4S.
Mine came with MP4S.

Understood but so does the other BMWs on the list but only the Xdrive cars are consistently delivered to the Supertest on Pirellis. A bit odd unless they are regarded to be the best stock tire for the track.

[stylinexpat]

Very very impressive numbers. I thought I even saw that in some parts of the track the track was damp too. Very good driver and very very good numbers. I want one..

[SexyRoger]

Originally Posted by Clemenza

20 to 15 second difference between old and new M4 comp. GTS is still faster by 2 seconds or 6 depending on which GTS you looking at.

[M3AWD]

Is he using the paddle shifters to upshift/downshift manually or is he leaving it in auto?

I think I can see him downshift but I can't tell if he's upshifting?

If I'm not mistaken Randy Probst left it in auto when he did his fast lap(s) so curious to know if that's what the pro's prefer, which would surprise me to be honest.

[wtwo3]

Originally Posted by stylinexpat

Very very impressive numbers. I thought I even saw that in some parts of the track the track was damp too. Very good driver and very very good numbers. I want one..

I noticed those damp portions as well. Wonder what sort of time it would put up on a completely dry track.

[CanAutM3]

Originally Posted by NorCalAthlete

I'm actually surprised how few Ferraris are in the top 50-100 spots. Contrast that with Lamborghini and it would appear the rivalry is not going well for Ferrari lol.

The second best time ever recorded by AM&S/SA is a Ferrari…