[Shaneartistry]

Current X5 owner. Looking into ordering an M3 in a few months. My local dealership offered $2500 market adjustment rate over MSRP and ~4 month delivery from order.

Is this the going rate currently or have you guys been able to order an M3 at MSRP?

[smitpatel5]

Originally Posted by Shaneartistry

Current X5 owner. Looking into ordering an M3 in a few months. My local dealership offered $2500 market adjustment rate over MSRP and ~4 month delivery from order.

Is this the going rate currently or have you guys been able to order an M3 at MSRP?

From my experience msrp deals are available a lot! Catch is u need to wait to get them I have rarely seen msrp with immediate allocation. When u pay over sticker you should have immediate allocation. Choice is yours both options exist though. And depending on your market $2500 for an immediate allocation seems like a great deal!!

[rowdydaoudy]

If you order and sit in a waitlist, you can get it at MSRP, but no guarantee on time when youll get an allocation. If a dealer is telling you $2500 and ~4 months, likely they are getting the allocations and selling them to the folks willing to pay it. There are a few dealers I've spoken to who are essentially not putting people on waitlists and just selling the allocations as they come in. All depends on your patience and if you're okay with paying the markup.

[kooft]

I got $1900 off MSRP from a Dec 2021 order on a March 2022 delivery (VERY BAD time as Munich was shut down due to the wiring harnesses from Ukraine the week I received my car).

You shouldn't be paying above MSRP. Dealers are struggling and they were charging $15k markup 3 months ago. They will be much cheaper soon. If you can wait, wait a few months.

[Shaneartistry]

Originally Posted by kooft

I got $1900 off MSRP from a Dec 2021 order on a March 2022 delivery (VERY BAD time as Munich was shut down due to the wiring harnesses from Ukraine the week I received my car).

You shouldn't be paying above MSRP. Dealers are struggling and they were charging $15k markup 3 months ago. They will be much cheaper soon. If you can wait, wait a few months.

Good to know. I'm not in a huge rush. I was going to put an order in around Jan and hope for an April or May delivery.

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by kooft

I got $1900 off MSRP from a Dec 2021 order on a March 2022 delivery (VERY BAD time as Munich was shut down due to the wiring harnesses from Ukraine the week I received my car).

You shouldn't be paying above MSRP. Dealers are struggling and they were charging $15k markup 3 months ago. They will be much cheaper soon. If you can wait, wait a few months.

I'm glad you got that deal but there is literally not a single person on this forum that has gotten anywhere near that type of discount since then.

[kooft]

Originally Posted by Gfit

I'm glad you got that deal but there is literally not a single person on this forum that has gotten anywhere near that type of discount since then.

Ive seen auto brokers advertise at MSRP through the months on this forum....

[Draper]

Originally Posted by kooft

I got $1900 off MSRP from a Dec 2021 order on a March 2022 delivery (VERY BAD time as Munich was shut down due to the wiring harnesses from Ukraine the week I received my car).

You shouldn't be paying above MSRP. Dealers are struggling and they were charging $15k markup 3 months ago. They will be much cheaper soon. If you can wait, wait a few months.

This is not a typical experience.

OP - Most are paying MSRP and waiting a few months for an allocation.

It's unlikely you will be able to walk into a dealer in January and pay MSRP for an immediate allocation.

If you want a car in March, I would start calling around now to see how long the lists are for the dealers in your area.

[wrbauman]

Having waited for 5 months and counting for an allocation, I'd be happy to pay a little more to actually have an order number, but thats just me.

[Aalfred]

Did the dealership charging an $2500 ADM say they have an allocation / production number ? If they do, I would def take that if u want ur car in a reasonable time frame 4-6 months. If you are willing to wait 6-9 months or even more, you can call around and find a dealer thats doing MSRP but also likely to have a large order bank and so no guarantee u will get the car anytime soon.

[M3coco]

Originally Posted by Gfit

I'm glad you got that deal but there is literally not a single person on this forum that has gotten anywhere near that type of discount since then.

I got msrp plus $1500 rebate, 500 loyalty and 1000 from bmw na for the delay of my car sitting at port for 2 months, it is possible. Just got delivery about a month ago

[Vector7]

Originally Posted by M3coco

I got msrp plus $1500 rebate, 500 loyalty and 1000 from bmw na for the delay of my car sitting at port for 2 months, it is possible. Just got delivery about a month ago

What was the $1500 rebate? I didn’t know they were still doing loyalty on the Ms but I’ll take it!

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by Gfit

I'm glad you got that deal but there is literally not a single person on this forum that has gotten anywhere near that type of discount since then.

I got a $1500 credit through the Navy Federal/TrueCar program (does not require financing through them), plus $500 from my CCA rebate. $2k definitely helps reduce the sting of paying MSRP.

(I ordered in March of this year, delivery in August.)

[Habber]

This question will always be location based. Some will sell above, some below MSRP.

[Gfit]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

I got a $1500 credit through the Navy Federal/TrueCar program (does not require financing through them), plus $500 from my CCA rebate. $2k definitely helps reduce the sting of paying MSRP.

(I ordered in March of this year, delivery in August.)

Awesome. Yeah, I should have been more specific. I was referring to dealer discount off MSRP. Still a few programs out there.

[Danman5666]

I would honestly wait - this is my plan. Interest rates are going up and car sales are starting to fall.

[Nado]

Originally Posted by Shaneartistry

Current X5 owner. Looking into ordering an M3 in a few months. My local dealership offered $2500 market adjustment rate over MSRP and ~4 month delivery from order.

Is this the going rate currently or have you guys been able to order an M3 at MSRP?

Where in TN are you located? I paid MSRP.

[tico1028]

Originally Posted by Danman5666

I would honestly wait - this is my plan. Interest rates are going up and car sales are starting to fall.

I think this could be a good approach, but question is, how much do prices have to fall (with discounts, etc) to offset increase in rates?

For example, if you pay 3k ADM but can find a 4% interest rate, vs getting 5k off MSRP and paying 7% interest? Not sure how deep a discount will be available even in the downturn (compared to pre pandemic discounts), and not sure how much rates will actually go up (especially for those savvy enough to find the best rates).

[Shaneartistry]

Originally Posted by Nado

Where in TN are you located? I paid MSRP.

Nashville. That's good to know.

[MisterGoober]

Nobody can predict the future. We will probably see higher interest rates, we might see another MSRP increase. We aren't likely to see pricing significantly below MSRP until dealers are sitting with unused allocations.

Keep an eye on M4 pricing as it's been less constrained vs. M3. So far haven't seen any M4 discounting.

[rak299]

M3 and M4 are not the same. M3 is more likely to be marked up and a longer wait. It seems related to the capacities of the factories. Munich (M3) vs. Dingolfing (M4)

[Nado]

Originally Posted by Shaneartistry

Nashville. That's good to know.

Same here. Did you go to BMW Nashville in Cool Springs? I originally went there and they were trying to sell for like 15 to 20k over MSRP.

Another local owner here said they call and was told they sell at MSRP. BMW Nashville blows. I wont purchase from them.

If you want a contact in Chattanooga, let me know. I ordered mine from them at MSRP and got an allocation in 29 days.