2023 M3/M4 Ordering Guides

NightWriter · 05-31-2022, 11:33 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Mann

I still don't get why the 4 cost more, same or less would make more sense, yes no?

Because 4 > 3. (Seriously, that's why)

PLF69 · 05-31-2022, 11:40 AM

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Originally Posted by NightWriter

Because 4 > 3. (Seriously, that's why)

It's strange around here M3 (4door) have always been more rare and kept a slightly better value than the M4. Maybe because of the practical aspect.

wtwo3 · 05-31-2022, 11:53 AM

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Originally Posted by G-Mann

I still don't get why the 4 cost more, same or less would make more sense, yes no?

It's typically like this... the coupe version of the car typically costs more. An S5 costs more than an S4... A C class coupe costs more than a C class sedan...

There's a couple reasons for this. First reason being that they cost more to produce due to lower take rates. Apply economies of scale and a higher volume sedan will have a lower per unit production cost than the equivalent, lower volume coupe. You may have some cases where the pricing is similar among both counterparts and in that case it's reasonable to assume that pricing from the sedan has been inflated to subsidize lower pricing of the coupe (meaning what would typically be priced at $40k for the sedan and $43k for the coupe, perhaps both cars are priced equally at $42k).

Automakers might see this as a way of justifying the existence of the coupe. I know Mercedes has looked at eliminating some of their coupe counterparts.

The other reason, which I'm guessing, is the fact that coupes represent a niche market. From a marketing standpoint, they may use this to justify the upcharge by positioning it as the "sportier" alternative.

gohawks23 · 05-31-2022, 01:41 PM

Was at dealer this morning and saw the curved display in i4 M50 and iX...have to say it doesn't look bad in person...most likely a change I could get used to.

disancke · 05-31-2022, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by gohawks23

Was at dealer this morning and saw the curved display in i4 M50 and iX...have to say it doesn't look bad in person...most likely a change I could get used to.

Just adding to your point, I happened to take a photo of the screen on i4 M50 so I attach it here.

It looks like an 'ugh' to me. At that point I never thought one day the screen would be in my car lol.

Alachua · 05-31-2022, 01:59 PM

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Originally Posted by disancke

Just adding to your point, I happened to take a photo of the screen on i4 M50 so I attach it here.

It looks like an 'ugh' to me. At that point I never thought one day the screen would be in my car lol.

Look at those fingerprints. The future isn't bright, it's smudged!

gohawks23 · 05-31-2022, 02:01 PM

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Originally Posted by disancke

Just adding to your point, I happened to take a photo of the screen on i4 M50 so I attach it here.

It looks like an 'ugh' to me. At that point I never thought one day the screen would be in my car lol.

I was thinking I was gonna hate but it looked better in person and doesn't really photo well. Sorta like the snout on these beasts. Haha!

madpistol · 05-31-2022, 04:22 PM

For the options I ordered (M3 Competition), the price went up just under $3000. According to the ordering guide, the Full Merino Leather option creates a reduction in price for the Executive Package ($1800 -> $1550). Black Sapphire Metallic paint is also a STD color now, so that reduces the cost by $550. Parking Assist Pkg. also went from $800 -> $700.

Also, I noticed that Laser Light is an option on the M3. I thought BMW was doing away with that. (I actually was going to get the Laser Lights)

calbears · 05-31-2022, 04:42 PM

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Originally Posted by madpistol

For the options I ordered (M3 Competition), the price went up just under $3000. According to the ordering guide, the Full Merino Leather option creates a reduction in price for the Executive Package ($1800 -> $1550). Black Sapphire Metallic paint is also a STD color now, so that reduces the cost by $550. Parking Assist Pkg. also went from $800 -> $700.

Also, I noticed that Laser Light is an option on the M3. I thought BMW was doing away with that. (I actually was going to get the Laser Lights)

Metallic paint is $650, not a no-cost option

disancke · 05-31-2022, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by gohawks23

I was thinking I was gonna hate but it looked better in person and doesn't really photo well. Sorta like the snout on these beasts. Haha!

It probably looks better when it's on. When it's off it looks like the two screens are actually one as you can barely see the dividing bar between them, and initially I thought it was a iPhone 50 MaxMaxMaxMax.

disancke · 05-31-2022, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Alachua

Look at those fingerprints. The future isn't bright, it's smudged!

meanwhile imagine you have your credit card sliding into the back of the screen...

madpistol · 05-31-2022, 04:47 PM

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Originally Posted by calbears

Metallic paint is $650, not a no-cost option

I don't see that on the pricing guide. Did BMW make a mistake?

Looks very "No-Costy" to me.

geim9000 · 05-31-2022, 05:09 PM

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Originally Posted by calbears

Metallic paint is $650, not a no-cost option

I don't see that on the pricing guide. Did BMW make a mistake?

Looks very "No-Costy" to me.

I read it this way too, that they are no cost if it has an "x". I've seen the $650 thrown out there too, but not sure where people have seen this.

calbears · 05-31-2022, 05:33 PM

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Originally Posted by geim9000

I read it this way too, that they are no cost if it has an "x". I've seen the $650 thrown out there too, but not sure where people have seen this.

That's a mistake in the pricing guide. BMW has already announced that metallic paints are $650 (see the sticky in this forum)

apexes · 05-31-2022, 05:37 PM

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Originally Posted by madpistol

I don't see that on the pricing guide. Did BMW make a mistake?

Looks very "No-Costy" to me.

Think it's missing, supposed to say $650 in the header for special paints...same way it shows for the M4. It was called out in the 23MY pricing changes bulletin for all metallic paints going from $550 to $650.

madpistol · 05-31-2022, 05:55 PM

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Originally Posted by calbears

That's a mistake in the pricing guide. BMW has already announced that metallic paints are $650 (see the sticky in this forum)

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Originally Posted by apexesm4

Think it's missing, supposed to say $650 in the header for special paints...same way it shows for the M4. It was called out in the 23MY pricing changes bulletin for all metallic paints going from $550 to $650.

Well crap. Guess that means it's right at around $3700 price increase for the same options as before. M340i gets almost no price increase, while the M3 gets shafted. Just my luck.

I think I'm going to get rid of the Laser Lights and Extended Shadowline headlights. I need to find a way to shave off a few bucks from my previous build.

Vector7 · 05-31-2022, 06:43 PM

Anyone think dropping Executive package will kill resale? Seems like most of these cars have them but it’s a good way to shave a few bucks I guess.

NightWriter · 05-31-2022, 06:53 PM

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Originally Posted by Vector7

Anyone think dropping Executive package will kill resale? Seems like most of these cars have them but it’s a good way to shave a few bucks I guess.

That's a pretty standard option. Not having it would likely hurt resale, IMHO. Every $1000 costs about $17.75/mo, if that makes you feel better. But get the car you want, not what someone else will want in five years.

madpistol · 05-31-2022, 07:02 PM

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Originally Posted by Vector7

Anyone think dropping Executive package will kill resale? Seems like most of these cars have them but it’s a good way to shave a few bucks I guess.

If you're buying this car with resale in mind, you need to get the Big 3 Packages.

Driving Assistance Pro Package
Parking Assistance Package
Executive Package

In today's world of high tech cars, you will KILL resale value if you don't get these.

PinkFlamingo · 05-31-2022, 07:17 PM

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Originally Posted by madpistol

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Originally Posted by Vector7

Anyone think dropping Executive package will kill resale? Seems like most of these cars have them but it’s a good way to shave a few bucks I guess.

If you're buying this car with resale in mind, you need to get the Big 3 Packages.

Driving Assistance Pro Package
Parking Assistance Package
Executive Package

In today's world of high tech cars, you will KILL resale value if you don't get these.

I'd actually pass on any car that had them.

wtwo3 · 05-31-2022, 07:22 PM

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Originally Posted by NightWriter

But get the car you want, not what someone else will want in five years.

100%

calbears · 05-31-2022, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by madpistol

In today's world of high tech cars, you will KILL resale value if you don't get these.

Disagree. Why worry about reseal value. Get the car YOU want and can afford. Enjoy the car while it's yours.

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