[omaralt]

Originally Posted by KnightedBMW

Dude, relax. Chill on the am coffee. Nobody is accepting anything. We haven't even been formally notified. There's no info yet. Let's wait and see what BMWNA says before we jump off the deep end. That's all we (levelheaded people) are saying.

I am one of the ones who appears to be affected, but there's literally no info out yet. There's no acceptance of anything.

Let's see what the issue is, what the notification is, what the fix is, and what they intend on doing to make it right before we blow a gasket.

I'm typically a hot head and over reactor, but we just need to chill for the minute.

beat me to it

[Tdubb88]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

But also read the post I was replying to. Do I take the chance that my car wasn't named and down the road, something similar happens, but it's not covered, because BMW didn't identify my build time frame as being a problem?

For reference, I had a similar situation happen to me with my Type R. LPFP recall X affected vehicles. Mine wasn't named, I'm good. Well, 800 miles later, my car is on a tow truck and the LPFP was replaced.

I'd also be curious to see if this is affecting the M4s. Most people I've seen affected, purchased M3s.

Mine is affected. It's an M4

[nearwater4me]

Originally Posted by burnsniper

I honestly would be more concerned if I had a car that was manufactured a little time before or after the recall window. Everything in manufacturing and quality control (and life really) is on a statistical bell curve and BMW is trying to guess an acceptable P-Value that covers the most likely failures.

No need to be concerned about parts outside the affected range.
I'm am a quality guy in automotive, and the traceability for certain safety parts or critical components is very thorough.
I've handled data that showed every single vehicle/VIN with certain airbag inflators during the Takata recall.

I have no doubt BMW has full traceability of the parts and vehicles affected.

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by Tdubb88

Mine is affected. It's an M4

I was trying to see if anyone noticed the possibility of the bearings only being at one of the plants, and not both. So, that answers that, Dingolfing and Munich are both affected.

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by nearwater4me

No need to be concerned about parts outside the affected range.
I'm am a quality guy in automotive, and the traceability for certain safety parts or critical components is very thorough.
I've handled data that showed every single vehicle/VIN with certain airbag inflators during the Takata recall.

I have no doubt BMW has full traceability of the parts and vehicles affected.

I agree with this. Plus, I think most people are focused on the assembly date range. It's the engine production range that's important here, and we don't know what those date ranges are. Engine production is completely separate. In the case of the X3/X4s, the engines are shipped from Germany to SC and then put into the cars.

The date range for the car assembly is easy. They figured out a batch of engines that may be affected and their production system spit out the car VINs they ended up in. If your car is in the assembly date range, but your VIN doesn't show this issue, you just simply did not get one of those engines. While your assembly date may be inside the range, your engine may be no where near the affected date range.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

But also read the post I was replying to. Do I take the chance that my car wasn't named and down the road, something similar happens, but it's not covered, because BMW didn't identify my build time frame as being a problem?

For reference, I had a similar situation happen to me with my Type R. LPFP recall X affected vehicles. Mine wasn't named, I'm good. Well, 800 miles later, my car is on a tow truck and the LPFP was replaced.

I'd also be curious to see if this is affecting the M4s. Most people I've seen affected, purchased M3s.

OEMs and Tier 1 manufacturers tend to to include vehicles and components in a recall even if they have slightest hint of it being affected. On a scale like this, its a lot easier for them to do a wider recall with additional vehicles than using up resources on case by case under warranty and also answer government bodies when audit issues. Working in the auto industry on several safety critical components for more than a decade, this has always been my experience.

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I was trying to see if anyone noticed the possibility of the bearings only being at one of the plants, and not both. So, that answers that, Dingolfing and Munich are both affected.

The engines are all manufactured in the same plant.

[LukeM15]

Now I have a question did a car engine failed? How did they came about with this find?

[kith_m4]

LOL IKR!! I couldn't search on the UK recall site so I tried US site and guess what nothing came out for my M4 that started production on July 14, just 2 days before the recall window and the definition of production date is as iffy as how this whole situation has been.

Originally Posted by KnightedBMW

Interesting that the recall isn't searchable by VIN anymore. BMW must've gotten wind of the leak and wants to get out in front of it before anymore hysteria ensues.

Otherwise, very odd coincidence.

[KnightedBMW]

Originally Posted by LukeM15

Now I have a question did a car engine failed? How did they came about with this find?

That's what I wanna know. How do they determine the recall? Obviously an issue presented itself.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by LukeM15

Now I have a question did a car engine failed? How did they came about with this find?

It would be a confidential information within BMW engineering and quality. Unless an insider leaks that information (which is highly unlikely), its almost impossible to get that information.

[shhhhs]

Originally Posted by KnightedBMW

You're in the same boat as the rest of us who are affected. The US site hasn't updated yet for whatever reason. The info on the UK site is apparently correct and we're just waiting for more info.

Welcome to your new home (thread). Settle in.

Thanks for the info. Will keep following up with my dealer and see what they say (hopefully soon).

[shhhhs]

Originally Posted by savi01

It seems the UK website shows ALL info per VIN, wheras the US site ONLY shows recalls. If you look at the UK site in the debugger, you'll notice that the "recall" option is set to "no" for most of the codes (the stop sale, missing RAM, etc.). Most likely means an official recall hasn't been issued yet, therefore US version wont show anything.

Also, there are many on here who have cars sitting at US ports waiting parts but the US website doesn't show any indication of that, just shows zero recalls. At this point, I think I'd use the UK version for the latest/most accurate info, and not the US version. The US one will show a recall once BMW has confirmed it and sent out mailers/emails/etc. to owners.

Thank you. This makes a lot of sense. Will keep following up with my dealer and see if I can get more clarity in the next couple of days.

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by jimbethesda

The engines are all manufactured in the same plant.

Ok, good.

[codestar]

So I was unable to check through the UK check site as it's down but I tried the canada site (https://www.bmw.ca/en/ssl/VehicleRecall.html) and it doesn't show as having a recall.

I tried a vin decoder and it looks like my production date was 2021-09-15. I'm guessing I'm safe since it's an M4 and not an M3?

[jimbethesda]

Originally Posted by codestar

So I was unable to check through the UK check site as it's down but I tried the canada site (https://www.bmw.ca/en/ssl/VehicleRecall.html) and it doesn't show as having a recall.

I tried a vin decoder and it looks like my production date was 2021-09-15. I'm guessing I'm safe since it's an M4 and not an M3?

This doesn't work for U.S. cars

[M3AWD]

My car finished production on July 3rd so am I 100% excluded from this issue?

[nearwater4me]

Originally Posted by vj123

It would be a confidential information within BMW engineering and quality. Unless an insider leaks that information (which is highly unlikely), its almost impossible to get that information.

+1.
My guess is the supplier found out the issue after the batch of parts were already shipped to BMW and reported it.
BMW issues recall before any serious incidents could occur.

[ChrisK]

After owning an e46 M3, e92 M3, f87 M2C.

This is just business as usual.

[nottoday]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

I appreciate it, and I feel for anyone else in this situation. It sucks. I feel worse for the people that have taken delivery of the cars that are affected, because they really have no options. Im sure BMW doesnt have the manning, but id be happier if they sent engine specialists to repair the affected problem. Or, offer that extended warranty. And for me, since my VIN isnt listed, but I fall in that window, I get no guarantee, for anything.

Hey, your Vin is not listed?

Can you tell me how you found out your Vin was not listed?

[Limegrntaln]

Originally Posted by nottoday

Hey, your Vin is not listed?

Can you tell me how you found out your Vin was not listed?

Access to the sites we've been using to check, have recently been mysteriously disconnected by BMW. We were using their own UK site for VIN recalls, but it seems like BMW has removed the API. But before that, you could enter your vin number in the site, and it would tell you recalls or TSBs that affected your VIN.

[nottoday]

Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Access to the sites we've been using to check, have recently been mysteriously disconnected by BMW. We were using their own UK site for VIN recalls, but it seems like BMW has removed the API. But before that, you could enter your vin number in the site, and it would tell you recalls or TSBs that affected your VIN.

Okay, thank you.
Yeah, I tried that UK site today and a message on the site said "Application is not available"