Need input on winter wheel/tire set for 2021 M4 Comp pls!

EckSmithSe · 11-22-2023, 02:03 PM

Hi all!

I've got a 2021 M4 Comp w/standard brakes arriving in my driveway next month, but I live in MI and it's currently got PS4S tires on it. Since the OEM staggered setup is 275/35/ZR19 in the front and 285/30/ZR20 in the rear, I was going to transition to a square setup for Winter. From reading other threads here, it looks like 275/35R19 all around would be a viable setup?

Here's what I have for current Winter wheel/tire possibilities with these specs (pics below):
First vendor: 275/35R19 P Zero Winter Run Flats on 19x9.5 (+35) wheels.
Second vendor: 275/35R19 Nokian Hakkapeliitta R5 tires on either 19x9.5 (+20) wheels OR 19x19.5 (+34) wheels.

Not sure what to look for regarding offset for this car, but any and all input is much appreciated! Thank you!

forcefed · 11-22-2023, 04:53 PM

Get +20 offset, but the rims from the second pic are the wrong bolt pattern, we use 5x112 with 66.5 center bore. As for tires i'd go with the nokian.

/ / / M3 · 11-23-2023, 06:11 PM

+35 mm offset, combined with the fact that the rear wheel is 1" narrower than stock to begin with, is going to produce a very sunken look.

Llarry · 11-24-2023, 06:19 AM

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Originally Posted by forcefed

Get +20 offset, but the rims from the second pic are the wrong bolt pattern, we use 5x112 with 66.5 center bore. As for tires i'd go with the nokian.

What he said.

Forzanerazzurri · 11-24-2023, 02:35 PM

What are you wanting out of a winter tire. Those two tires are in two different categories.

The Pzero Winters are the best performance winter tire on the market and are a great pair for this platform. Although can you find the BMW star ones that aren't run flats?

The Nokians are probably the best overall winter tire on the market and excell in really crap conditions. They are more of a pure winter tire that will sacrifice performance when the roads are dry.

scarbro · 12-24-2023, 01:55 PM

I'm in a similar predicament, I had a suby that i ran as a winter machine but blew up the engine so planning to drive my M3 this winter, what do you guys think about dropping to a smaller wheel, ie 18" all around that way you can rotate the rears to the front from season to season. I did that on my suby and it worked great. I'm assuming they will fit as some M3's ship with 18" on front.

forcefed · 12-24-2023, 07:20 PM

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Originally Posted by scarbro

I'm in a similar predicament, I had a suby that i ran as a winter machine but blew up the engine so planning to drive my M3 this winter, what do you guys think about dropping to a smaller wheel, ie 18" all around that way you can rotate the rears to the front from season to season. I did that on my suby and it worked great. I'm assuming they will fit as some M3's ship with 18" on front.

Not at 18's will fit, triple check before buying 18"rims unless they're oem ones.

kiw1 · 01-01-2024, 05:48 AM

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Originally Posted by scarbro

I'm in a similar predicament, I had a suby that i ran as a winter machine but blew up the engine so planning to drive my M3 this winter, what do you guys think about dropping to a smaller wheel, ie 18" all around that way you can rotate the rears to the front from season to season. I did that on my suby and it worked great. I'm assuming they will fit as some M3's ship with 18" on front.

Take a look at 19" 827ms, on PA5s. They are forged, unlike the 829's. I put them to the test last winter and they performed exceptionally well. If you are comfortable going AS, then there are a few options like DWS06 which will fit the stock rims.

M3SQRD · 01-09-2024, 10:10 AM

I would recommend running 19”, or even better 18” that clear steel brakes, because you’ll have a taller sidewall which reduces stiffness and improves grip in snow conditions. As for 20”, I see three winter performance tire options in 275/35-20. I have experience with the Pirelli Sottozero 3 tires on my G20 and F22. They perform well in cold, wet, and light-moderate snow conditions. Haven’t had the opportunity to try them in heavy snow conditions yet. Much better winter performance than an AS tire and they wear well when used in dry conditions.

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scarbro Registered 0 Rep 1 Posts Drives: M3 Join Date: Dec 2023 Location: Ada, MI iTrader: (0)	I'm in a similar predicament, I had a suby that i ran as a winter machine but blew up the engine so planning to drive my M3 this winter, what do you guys think about dropping to a smaller wheel, ie 18" all around that way you can rotate the rears to the front from season to season. I did that on my suby and it worked great. I'm assuming they will fit as some M3's ship with 18" on front.
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M3SQRD Major General 2164 Rep 5,549 Posts Drives: E92 M3,G20 330ix,F22 240iX,F82 Join Date: Jun 2009 Location: Mid-Atlantic iTrader: (11)	I would recommend running 19”, or even better 18” that clear steel brakes, because you’ll have a taller sidewall which reduces stiffness and improves grip in snow conditions. As for 20”, I see three winter performance tire options in 275/35-20. I have experience with the Pirelli Sottozero 3 tires on my G20 and F22. They perform well in cold, wet, and light-moderate snow conditions. Haven’t had the opportunity to try them in heavy snow conditions yet. Much better winter performance than an AS tire and they wear well when used in dry conditions.
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