Carwow - BMW M3 v Audi RS4 review & 0-60mph, 1/4-mile, brake and drift comparison!

JustChris · 03-17-2021, 03:27 PM

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Originally Posted by flanast

Anyone else amazed (in a bad way) that the new M3/4 is being compared to wagons and base 911. Oh my 🤯

Always the way

100% identical at F80 launch

Mr Friese · 03-17-2021, 03:29 PM

I never thought that I'd prefer the RS4 frontend to really any car at all, but here we are.

GOLFFRR · 03-17-2021, 03:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Vic55

All I ever dream of is beating Mani59 in being the first to post a CarWow vid.

lol or those weekly BMW M info drop vids

EXE46 · 03-17-2021, 04:21 PM

This car just keeps getting better and better since the embargo lifted; 2022 can't some soon enough lol. I want mine, just gotta wait till current lease matures. Haven't been this excited for a new M3 since the E46...

swampfox94 · 03-17-2021, 04:32 PM

give us a f80 vs g80 video please!!

Sjokosaus · 03-17-2021, 04:45 PM

I know most people don't like the M3, but the RS4 just looks so boring in comparison.

AlexFL · 03-17-2021, 04:50 PM

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Originally Posted by swampfox94

give us a f80 vs g80 video please!!

They can't, because G80 ate the F80 for breakfast!

Jcali86 · 03-17-2021, 05:16 PM

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Originally Posted by Sjokosaus

I know most people don't like the M3, but the RS4 just looks so boring in comparison.

Depends on your perspective; every G8X owner and potential owner likes the M3, I think it's the best looking M3 since the E46 personally. I do like the RS4 as well, but like every other car on the road it's boring and safe, unlike the G8X which is exciting and divisive.

nathanm4 · 03-17-2021, 05:23 PM

I never got any joy out of Audi cars except for R8 Manual. I will take M over RS any freaking day!

///M Power!

Lovegreatcars · 03-17-2021, 05:56 PM

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Originally Posted by Transfer

Yeah this G80 is a winner. Grille or not it looks so much better than the Audi too.

the audi grille isn't exactly subtle...

frankiebones · 03-17-2021, 05:58 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcali86

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Originally Posted by Sjokosaus

I know most people don't like the M3, but the RS4 just looks so boring in comparison.

Depends on your perspective; every G8X owner and potential owner likes the M3, I think it's the best looking M3 since the E46 personally. I do like the RS4 as well, but like every other car on the road it's boring and safe, unlike the G8X which is exciting and divisive.

Before the G80 the only thing that excited me in a BMW showroom was the wheels on a competition M8.

Ejones4541 · 03-17-2021, 06:00 PM

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Originally Posted by SeanWRT

A very bad habit CARWOW has is not to show the trap speed, which is a critical indicator of engine power and rolling capability.

The ET (eclipse time) by comparison is very much about the traction and is almost irrelavant when doing rwd vs awd.

Did you mean Elapsed Time?

SickGTR · 03-17-2021, 06:24 PM

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Originally Posted by Pantagathus

They make you pay out the ass to get one though. I saw one the other day that was going for $50k over asking - $180k for a $130k car. That is absurd

Just have to wait a bit. I'm waiting to check out the Z06 anyway, then deciding on what to get. RS6 will be way more exclusive than the M 3/4. Which I'm a fan of. You will see M 3/4 everywhere.

solstice · 03-17-2021, 06:33 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcali86

Depends on your perspective; every G8X owner and potential owner likes the M3, I think it's the best looking M3 since the E46 personally. I do like the RS4 as well, but like every other car on the road it's boring and safe, unlike the G8X which is exciting and divisive.

I like the look of the newest RS5 a lot. It’s pretty tight and taut looking for an Audi. The RS4 is a yawn though I agree.

Transfer · 03-17-2021, 06:38 PM

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Originally Posted by solstice

I like the look of the newest RS5 a lot. It’s pretty tight and taut looking for an Audi. The RS4 is a yawn though I agree.

RS5 in coupe or sportback looks great. Too bad the driving experience is the yawn.

SickGTR · 03-17-2021, 06:40 PM

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Originally Posted by AlexFL

They can't, because G80 ate the F80 for breakfast!

You must mean stock VS stock. In that case, I would FN hope so

Sjokosaus · 03-17-2021, 08:25 PM

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Originally Posted by Jcali86

Depends on your perspective; every G8X owner and potential owner likes the M3, I think it's the best looking M3 since the E46 personally. I do like the RS4 as well, but like every other car on the road it's boring and safe, unlike the G8X which is exciting and divisive.

It's not my favorite M3 design, that goes to the F80, but I do still like. I think my point was that these are high performance sedans/wagon and they should be differentiated from their counterparts, the RS4 just looks like a normal boring A4, at least the M3 looks completely different and much more sporty.

Germanauto · 03-17-2021, 08:30 PM

From watching the video alone you can tell how the M3 seems to be the more dialed in and visceral car. I felt like the F80 M3 (at least the early models) was too Audi-like in its manners. It's reassuring that Matt said the M3 feels like an M car all the time. More stiffness, more noise, more vibrations; that's what I want in a car like this. I can't wait to drive the G80 and see for myself.

Machtavian · 03-17-2021, 09:12 PM

Going back to a torque converter has helped the car launch much better than a DCT because it's loading the drivetrain through the torque converter and doesn't just shock the drivetrain like the DCT did and roast the tires. That's the only benefit of a torque converter vs DCT. I wonder how well it would launch if you brake boosted from a dig?

rideontwo · 03-17-2021, 10:20 PM

Checked the Youtube comments for an answer, what color is the G80? Is that Brooklyn Grey?

Jcali86 · 03-17-2021, 10:21 PM

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Originally Posted by rideontwo

Checked the Youtube comments for an answer, what color is the F80? Is that Brooklyn Grey?

G80*

It is yeah

Salespunk · 03-18-2021, 12:26 AM

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Originally Posted by Pantagathus

They make you pay out the ass to get one though. I saw one the other day that was going for $50k over asking - $180k for a $130k car. That is absurd

You can find them at list if you look. All of them asking over list have been sitting for over a month. Almost bought my wife one a few weeks ago.

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Germanauto Major General 9704 Rep 6,084 Posts Drives: Alfa Romeo Giulia, Rosso Join Date: Jul 2016 Location: LA iTrader: (0)	From watching the video alone you can tell how the M3 seems to be the more dialed in and visceral car. I felt like the F80 M3 (at least the early models) was too Audi-like in its manners. It's reassuring that Matt said the M3 feels like an M car all the time. More stiffness, more noise, more vibrations; that's what I want in a car like this. I can't wait to drive the G80 and see for myself. __________________ Former -2008 E90 328 black/brown -2012 Lexus IS250 black/black
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Machtavian Private 61 Rep 56 Posts Drives: F80 Join Date: May 2017 Location: NorCal iTrader: (0)	Going back to a torque converter has helped the car launch much better than a DCT because it's loading the drivetrain through the torque converter and doesn't just shock the drivetrain like the DCT did and roast the tires. That's the only benefit of a torque converter vs DCT. I wonder how well it would launch if you brake boosted from a dig?
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rideontwo Lieutenant 190 Rep 428 Posts Drives: VaNOs Join Date: Jul 2008 Location: NE iTrader: (1)	Checked the Youtube comments for an answer, what color is the G80? Is that Brooklyn Grey? Last edited by rideontwo; 03-18-2021 at 07:22 AM.. Reason: Corrected chassis code from F80 to G80.
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