[TheBingoBalls]

Originally Posted by F87source

RB has alpha tauri as their grunt team and look how fast they are with old rb parts. Imagine if mercedes buys out williams and makes them their junior team and changes their design concept to a merc style car, then there would be 4 mercs blasting down the field.

Might as well add McLaren and it would be a never-ending Mercedes dynasty! Could you imagine the outrage? F1 turns into the Mercedes invitational.

[fiveohwblow]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Might as well add McLaren and it would be a never-ending Mercedes dynasty! Could you imagine the outrage? F1 turns into the Mercedes invitational.

Don't do that to my mclaren

[F87source]

Originally Posted by TheBingoBalls

Might as well add McLaren and it would be a never-ending Mercedes dynasty! Could you imagine the outrage? F1 turns into the Mercedes invitational.

Lol the grid would be:

1) Merc
2 McLaren
3) AM
4) Williams

It would be kinda of nuts, probably in a relay bad way.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by Foghorn

Once again a quote from your preferred source at gpblog.com. Have you ever looked into the back grounds of the writers there?

Here's how these recent sports journalist graduates describe themselves;

Matt Gretton Editor-in-Chief
Matt has been watching Formula 1 since 2003. He has been a member of the GPblog team since March 2018 and has just completed a degree in Sports Journalism at the University of Gloucestershire. Matt enjoys the history of F1, looking at the stats and writing opinion pieces. Aside from Formula 1, Matt also writes about Snooker and Darts.

Adam Newton Editor
An original member of the GPBlog team, Adam is an expert on everything about Formula 1, particularly the history of the sport. Adam is a huge Romain Grosjean fan, going back to his early days in the sport and can be often seen defending the Frenchman when possible! Adam loves being part of GPBlog and hopes you enjoy his content!

Louis Shaw Editor
Louis has been watching Formula 1 for as long as he can remember. He has been a member of the GPblog team since December 2018 and isn't shy about revealing his F1 opinions! Louis also works in rugby union and is in his final year of a Sports Journalism degree.

Cameron Smith Editor
Cameron is a first-year university student studying sport journalism at the University of Gloucestershire. He enjoys writing longer-form opinion pieces on current Formula One topics as well as delving into breaking news. He has recently become a member of the GPBlog team, starting in 2021, and away from F1, can be found specialising in football writing.

Toby McLuskie Editor
Toby is currently studying Sports Journalism at the University of Gloucestershire. He has been an F1 fan for the last few years and loves the thrill and excitement of every GP. He likes writing opinion pieces and looking into statistical analysis. Aside from F1, Toby is a big American sports fan, specialising in basketball and American football, as well as English sports including football and cricket.

A typical example of people with little subject knowledge who only add heat and not light to the sport.

Just like with HAM's cheating DRS wing ,it just began with just 'one picture at GPblog ...
I'm pretty sure , GPblog completely nailed it there !

[F87source]

I think the only way RB has a chance now, if all things are clean going down the last 2 races, is to take a grid penalty on max and give him a new ICE and run that thing full beans. But I really don't know if the honda pu is capable of out putting what the mercede's pu does on full space ship mode.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Just like with HAM's cheating DRS wing ,it just began with just 'one picture at GPblog ...
I'm pretty sure , GPblog completely nailed it there !

Not illegal until it fails FIA testing... Just more operating in grey area.

Otherwise Max had a cheating flexi wing all early season.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Again trying to gaslight the w12's pu to make max seem like a super human driver. By your logic max was only good this year because the rb16b started off leagues ahead of everything else. So to beat Lewis you need to FIA to knee cap Mercedes, and redbull to make the fastest car on the field.

You should pull the pin of your Rocketship grenade and then come back to spread more BS .

But I didn't said anything . It was actually the Wolf with his threatening statement towards MAX and Red Bull .

I heard his statement was just on the edge of the human common sense ...

Personal I see it like weeds can't grow without the seed .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Not illegal until it fails FIA testing... Just more operating in grey area.

Otherwise Max had a cheating flexi wing all early season.

Red Bull has already a copy ready from HAM's Cheating DRS wing .
If HAM's cheating DRS wing is legal for the new FIA load test ...
MAX and Checo will run it as well in Saudi Arabia .

BTW : Your statements are much darker than grey ..

[Steeler]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Your statements are much darker than grey ..

Speaking of dark, Karen should take off her shades and see if she can come up with something a bit more damning.
Her efforts stink of desperation.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Red Bull has already a copy ready from HAM's Cheating DRS wing .
If HAM's cheating DRS wing is legal for the new FIA load test ...
MAX and Checo will run it as well in Saudi Arabia .

BTW : Your statements are much darker than grey ..

I don't think you understand what grey area is.

But yes if it's legal, then RB should copy it. If not then RB wasted money and development hours on developing a copy. They should have just adopted said wing from the start.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

You should pull the pin of your Rocketship grenade and then come back to spread more BS .

But I didn't said anything . It was actually the Wolf with his threatening statement towards MAX and Red Bull .

I heard his statement was just on the edge of the human common sense ...

Personal I see it like weeds can't grow without the seed .

If you said the only way to beta max is Lewis getting a rocket engine. Then the same logic applies to max, the only way max could beat Lewis is for the FIA to handicap Mercedes and for redbull to build a dominant car.

Because if max was so good then why couldn't he beat Lewis last year? Right because the w11 was too fast. So max is winning right now not because he's a super human driver it's because he finally got the best car this year.


This is the flaw with it's all the car logic... In reality a fast driver cannot win with a crap car, so it takes both to win.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

I think the only way RB has a chance now, if all things are clean going down the last 2 races, is to take a grid penalty on max and give him a new ICE and run that thing full beans. But I really don't know if the honda pu is capable of out putting what the mercede's pu does on full space ship mode.

Once again : Negative .

The HONDA-RA621H Isn't prone for HP loss like the Mercedes PU .
The Mercedes has huge HP loss and very quickly , because it is pushed beyond the limits .

That's why Mercedes has to swap PU's like I change my underwear .
Of course It's really required to swap HAM's Rocket Grenade again to beat MAX .

If Mercedes wins the 2021 WDC . It was with the "MERCEDES ROCKET GRENADE" !

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Once again : Negative .

The HONDA-RA621H Isn't prone for HP loss like the Mercedes PU .
The Mercedes has huge HP loss and very quickly , because it is pushed beyond the limits .

That's why Mercedes has to swap PU's like I change my underwear .
Of course It's really required to swap HAM's Rocket Grenade again to beat MAX .

If Mercedes wins the 2021 WDC . It was with the "MERCEDES ROCKET GRENADE" !

Agreed, the Honda pu doesn't degrade as badly as the Merc pu. However if RB wants to find more power aka run the engine harder in order to catch Merc they'll need to do it with a fresh engine otherwise the risk of a failure is greater.

Sure the engine deg is lower with Honda, but every engine gets more fragile as age increases, so it's never wise to push an old motor even harder. So if RB needs power they'll have to get a new pu.

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by dbarton62

Speaking of dark, Karen should take off her shades and see if she can come up with something a bit more damning.
Her efforts stink of desperation.

Mate .The hate is really strong with you !

I really wonder how much your hate would grow if MAX pulls the '21 WDC...

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

Agreed, the Honda pu doesn't degrade as badly as the Merc pu. However if RB wants to find more power aka run the engine harder in order to catch Merc they'll need to do it with a fresh engine otherwise the risk of a failure is greater.

Sure the engine deg is lower with Honda, but every engine gets more fragile as age increases, so it's never wise to push an old motor even harder. So if RB needs power they'll have to get a new pu.

Mercedes pulled "Everything" already out .
"Everything" from HONDA is just on the table.

Let us not forget ..It's a month to go .

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

Mercedes pulled "Everything" already out .
"Everything" from HONDA is just on the table.

Let us not forget ..It's a month to go .

And if Honda wants to get that extra bit of power they would have introduce a new pu, if they don't max risks a DNF if his motor blows. It's common knowledge F1 engines don't last that long, and as they age their reliability decreases hence why each team gets 3 engines per year. Adding power to an old engine only speeds up its degradation and decreases reliability (which is already pretty low on an old engine).

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by minn19

And FIA had to basically outlaw the W11 so Max even had a chance.

How many times I've already said that the Mercedes PU has a decade of advantage .

[///M Power-Belgium]

Originally Posted by F87source

And if Honda wants to get that extra bit of power they would have introduce a new pu, if they don't max risks a DNF if his motor blows. It's common knowledge F1 engines don't last that long, and as they age their reliability decreases hence why each team gets 3 engines per year. Adding power to an old engine only speeds up its degradation and decreases reliability (which is already pretty low on an old engine).

From what I see : Regarding HAM's PU .

HAM'' Turkish PU => 5000 km (avarage HP loss is 1.5%/1000/km)
HAM's Brazilian Rocket PU => 2500 km (HP loss is unknown ,bigger risk to blow)

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

From what I see : Regarding HAM's PU .

HAM'' Turkish PU => 5000 km (avarage HP loss is 1.5%/1000/km)
HAM's Brazilian Rocket PU => 2500 km (HP loss is unknown ,bigger risk to blow)

The Brazil pu will be fine, the Mercedes engineers used Bottas as a test to see what the pu can take running full beans. Mercedes is extremely good at calculating and planning so Lewis will be fine.

[rcracin]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

How many times I've already said that the Mercedes PU has a decade of advantage .

Your point being?

All winners have an advantage.

[F87source]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

From what I see : Regarding HAM's PU .

HAM'' Turkish PU => 5000 km (avarage HP loss is 1.5%/1000/km)
HAM's Brazilian Rocket PU => 2500 km (HP loss is unknown ,bigger risk to blow)

Also how are you even able to calculate hp loss figures? Mercedes has never published a single figure on power output.


Looking at percentage delta to the rest of the field it shows redbull dropping off in terms of performance, and at a faster rate than Mercedes. So idk I think redbull may be running Max's pu on its last legs.

[minn19]

Originally Posted by ///M Power-Belgium

How many times I've already said that the Mercedes PU has a decade of advantage .

Maybe RB should become a real top team and develop their own engine. Instead of going from a couple of different manufacturers and blaming them for performance shortfalls. Otherwise this is just more