Frozen Black M3 Competition Touring with M Performance wheels

helmet91 · 05-12-2023, 09:59 AM

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Originally Posted by DenHaag3er

The reason america is cheaper is that they have limited model and production optiuons and crappier Mexican builds. Guys here can't afford the real german stuff.

The US is cheaper because there isn’t 21% VAT or other ridiculous taxes.

Just compare NL to Germany… the car in question (M3 Touring) costs 145.845€ in NL versus 101.300€ in Germany. That’s insane.

helmet91 · 05-12-2023, 10:03 AM

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Originally Posted by Afjeld

It cost more than an X3M in Europe ... over 100k GBP without taxes.

“Europe” is pretty broad…

The M3 Comp Touring starts 4.000€ less than the X3M Comp in Germany.

At 101.300€ in Germany, you knock off 19% VAT and you’re down to 85.126€. Depending on the exchange rate you’re looking at around $90,000 USD.

spuntyb · 05-12-2023, 12:46 PM

Looks great, enjoy!

Afjeld · 05-12-2023, 01:55 PM

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Originally Posted by iviegatron

Looking good. Going to need more photos than that so I can drool over them.

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iviegatron · 05-12-2023, 02:26 PM

Thanks OP, car is looking incredible! I started following you on your Instagram page.

Have you wrapped it with PPF yet to protect the paint?

Afjeld · 05-12-2023, 02:44 PM

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Originally Posted by iviegatron

Thanks OP, car is looking incredible! I started following you on your Instagram page.

Have you wrapped it with PPF yet to protect the paint?

Thanks, buddy! It has a full PPF: Matte, Black and Ultra Gloss PPF

iviegatron · 05-12-2023, 02:47 PM

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Originally Posted by Afjeld

Thanks, buddy! It has a full PPF: Matte, Black and Ultra Gloss PPF

Matte black? Or Matte PPF film?

If Matte black, is the car a different color underneath?

Afjeld · 05-12-2023, 02:51 PM

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Originally Posted by iviegatron

Matte black? Or Matte PPF film?

If Matte black, is the car a different color underneath?

Matte transparent PPF on the Frozen Black. Black PPF on the Piano Black trims and Ultra Gloss transparent on the Carbon trims.

iviegatron · 05-12-2023, 02:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Afjeld

Matte transparent PPF on the Frozen Black. Black PPF on the Piano Black trims and Ultra Gloss transparent on the Carbon trims.

That makes sense. Thank you!

Flo · 05-12-2023, 03:54 PM

What a beauty!!! I mean, how can you do that and then come up with the XM?... That's a mystery to me.

Flo · 05-12-2023, 04:05 PM

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Originally Posted by helmet91

Stupid 1980s lobbyists and morons in Congress that believed them (and took their money?). 🤬

It’s insane that such arbitrary regulations keep BMW from selling this car in the US.

I've been living in the US for almost a decade now and always wondered why fast German wagons were not available here given how successful they are in Europe. It's definitely not because of low demand for sure! I read it was due to some sort of crash test regulation, is that true? If so, how stupid! How a touring could be less safe than the garbages that I see on the road every day??

helmet91 · 05-12-2023, 04:20 PM

It’s a long story. The USD

M exchange rate in the 80s led to TONS of grey market imports into the US. The US branches of BMW, Porsche and MB lost lots of money. Their lobbyists told Congress the Euro-spec cars weren’t as safe as US market cars. DOT and EPA jumped on this and here we are. Now a clearly safe and environmentally sound car from Europe has to go through ridiculous testing to be sold in the US. So, a low volume car like the M3 Touring isn’t going to happen. That said, I’m really interested how the RS6 and E63S have come to market.

supralex · 05-13-2023, 06:03 AM

Does the xdrive have a slightly higher ride hide ?
Looks higher than my g80 with the same wheels

Afjeld · 05-13-2023, 06:57 AM

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Originally Posted by supralex

Does the xdrive have a slightly higher ride hide ?
Looks higher than my g80 with the same wheels

The suspension and springs on the G81 are modified and tuned by the M Division because of the extra weight. My car is brand new and have only 2000k km on the counter. I think, and hope, it will lower some more millimeters with more km.

geko29 · 05-13-2023, 01:11 PM

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Originally Posted by Flo

I've been living in the US for almost a decade now and always wondered why fast German wagons were not available here given how successful they are in Europe. It's definitely not because of low demand for sure! I read it was due to some sort of crash test regulation, is that true? If so, how stupid! How a touring could be less safe than the garbages that I see on the road every day??

My understanding is the process went something like this: When the G2X was being prepped for launch, BMW did not go through the process of federalizing the G21 wagon (crash testing, emissions, lighting certification, etc). With low expected demand, all that expense wouldn't be worthwhile.

Additionally, there was never supposed to be a G81 at all. The engineers were told not to make one. But they did anyway, showed it to the brass, and basically said "look at how awesome this is, you totally have to build it." So they did. But they weren't going to go back and spend the time/money to get the G21/G81 approved for sale in the US--that ship had already sailed. So no M3 Touring for us.

froz3ng80 · 05-14-2023, 05:42 PM

absolutely incredible

Afjeld · 05-15-2023, 08:36 AM

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Afjeld · 05-15-2023, 10:24 AM

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Originally Posted by OuterBanks

Beautiful spec., esp the rim choice as I'm so over black! did you get the car PPF'd? wish we could get the wagon in the USA.

Thanks! I'm really happy with this spec!
Yes, the car has a full PPF.

Lady Jane · 05-15-2023, 04:27 PM

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Afjeld · 05-16-2023, 01:17 AM

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'Nuff said.

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nsquared · 05-16-2023, 03:14 AM

Just so beautiful…

Drool.

Afjeld · 05-18-2023, 02:42 PM

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