MAD Midpipe-Only Comparison

jpsimon · 02-27-2023, 09:08 PM

Had the MAD midpipe installed today at Butzigear (highly recommend them if you’re in CT - it’s the only shop I bring my car).

Here’s a quick comparison video. I’ll get some drive-by shots when this snow storm clears up. I haven’t had much seat time yet but so far I’m enjoying it a lot.

Info@mad-us.com · 02-27-2023, 09:15 PM

mike@x-ph.com · 02-28-2023, 10:03 AM

Thank you for sharing

yousefnjr · 02-28-2023, 10:18 AM

Does sound great, thanks for sharing

EatThatLunchBaby · 02-28-2023, 10:29 AM

Excellent video and thanks for sharing! I love the subtle difference it makes

JohnizaUFG8or · 02-28-2023, 10:38 AM

I’ve had my eye on the MAD midpipe and your video pushed me over to getting it. Sounds great!

timmyg789 · 02-28-2023, 01:08 PM

Nice! Single mid-pipe seems the way to go…I’m torn between catless DP or 200 cel. I think the 200 cel will keep the rasp down but I’m going for big power and hate to have the restrictions. Please get a DP and make another quality video so I can decide 😂😂

moonluv810 · 02-28-2023, 03:43 PM

Very nice comparison video and awesome underbody photos!

Info@mad-us.com · 02-28-2023, 04:44 PM

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Originally Posted by timmyg789

Nice! Single mid-pipe seems the way to go…I’m torn between catless DP or 200 cel. I think the 200 cel will keep the rasp down but I’m going for big power and hate to have the restrictions. Please get a DP and make another quality video so I can decide 😂😂

Not going to hijack ops thread with others videos but, there are a few videos on the forums of that setup already.

200 cell will help with any rasp but it will also tone down the db's as well.

mike@x-ph.com · 03-01-2023, 08:47 AM

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Originally Posted by timmyg789

Nice! Single mid-pipe seems the way to go…I’m torn between catless DP or 200 cel. I think the 200 cel will keep the rasp down but I’m going for big power and hate to have the restrictions. Please get a DP and make another quality video so I can decide 😂😂

+1 I think the single midpipe offers the best sound on this platform.

CC M3C X · 03-02-2023, 11:01 AM

My apologies if this has already been asked and answered. It appears that the stock DME is de-tuning when cat-less DP’s are installed due to the increased airflow, etc, etc…
Is the same thing happening with just a midpipe install?
I will be tuning but I need to figure out if I am going to do the unlock and full tune or just a piggyback.
For the time being, I don’t want to be going backwards and have the car negatively compensating for mods that I am doing.
TYIA!

Info@mad-us.com · 03-02-2023, 09:52 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by CC M3C X

My apologies if this has already been asked and answered. It appears that the stock DME is de-tuning when cat-less DP’s are installed due to the increased airflow, etc, etc…
Is the same thing happening with just a midpipe install?
I will be tuning but I need to figure out if I am going to do the unlock and full tune or just a piggyback.
For the time being, I don’t want to be going backwards and have the car negatively compensating for mods that I am doing.
TYIA!

No, there are tons of dyno's floating around that show 1-16 whp gains with midpipes. You wont make less hp.

CC M3C X · 03-03-2023, 12:31 AM

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Originally Posted by Info@mad-us.com

No, there are tons of dyno's floating around that show 1-16 whp gains with midpipes. You wont make less hp.

Thanks for the response. I am planning on going with the MAD single mid-pipe.

Info@mad-us.com · 03-03-2023, 12:41 AM

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Originally Posted by CC M3C X

Thanks for the response. I am planning on going with the MAD single mid-pipe.

Johndaks · 03-03-2023, 06:25 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

+1 I think the single midpipe offers the best sound on this platform.

Hi Mike ,

Do you think these equal length pipes that are being released wil have a deeper/throatier sound?

mike@x-ph.com · 03-03-2023, 08:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Johndaks

Hi Mike ,

Do you think these equal length pipes that are being released wil have a deeper/throatier sound?

Front the sound clips, it sounds very similar to the single.

I'll know for sure once i test it on the shop's car next week

Boostin335 · 03-03-2023, 09:21 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

Front the sound clips, it sounds very similar to the single.

I'll know for sure once i test it on the shop's car next week

What is the evolution racewerks mid pipe considered - equal?

jpsimon · 03-03-2023, 09:30 AM

Btw I’ll have some under-load videos in the next few days. Have a new DJI action cam coming today to mount up

to///m · 03-03-2023, 09:32 AM

Excellent vid on the difference, I love my MAD mid pipe!

Just curious, when you say valves open, do you have a valve controller that is forcing them open?
And not just putting the car in sport+?

I know sport+ doesn’t fully open them, I don’t have a valve controller now with the mad mid pipe and want to know if this is how it will sound with one. Mine sounds close to this, but I think I can tell how the car throttles the valves

jpsimon · 03-03-2023, 09:38 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by to///m

Excellent vid on the difference, I love my MAD mid pipe!

Just curious, when you say valves open, do you have a valve controller that is forcing them open?
And not just putting the car in sport+?

I know sport+ doesn’t fully open them, I don’t have a valve controller now with the mad mid pipe and want to know if this is how it will sound with one. Mine sounds close to this, but I think I can tell how the car throttles the valves

Yeah just to be clear, this is sport+ (no valve controller)

mike@x-ph.com · 03-03-2023, 09:45 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Boostin335

What is the evolution racewerks mid pipe considered - equal?

its a dual design similar to stock but without the restrictions

jpsimon · 03-08-2023, 02:25 PM

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