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      07-18-2022, 10:51 AM   #1
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Track day Tire wear

These tires have roughly 250 miles of track time on them and about 1,000 miles of freeway driving.

the passenger front (and rear to a lesser degree) seem to have excessive wear to the center tread and outside shoulder.

is this a camber or inflation issue? Would a tire like the cup 2s last longer on track or are they just more sticky? Ran at 35psi hot

I rotated the tires but im pretty sure this set is ruined, i am going to need a new hobby if i can't go more then 3 days on a set of tires.
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These tires have roughly 250 miles of track time on them and about 1,000 miles of freeway driving.

the passenger front (and rear to a lesser degree) seem to have excessive wear to the center tread and outside shoulder.

is this a camber or inflation issue? Would a tire like the cup 2s last longer on track or are they just more sticky? Ran at 35psi hot

I rotated the tires but im pretty sure this set is ruined, i am going to need a new hobby if i can't go more then 3 days on a set of tires.
This looks like normal track wear. Beveled center blocks where the bevel is towards the outside is quite normal. The car is pushing on that edge a lot when cornering. If you're tearing the blocks that indicates overdriven tires. Wear on one side is always higher depending in the track layout.

Your right shoulder wear is from not enough negative camber. Get camber plates problem solved.
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This looks like normal track wear. Beveled center blocks where the bevel is towards the outside is quite normal. The car is pushing on that edge a lot when cornering. If you're tearing the blocks that indicates overdriven tires. Wear on one side is always higher depending in the track layout.

Your right shoulder wear is from not enough negative camber. Get camber plates problem solved.
thanks for the reply.

Obviously the water grooves are gone from the center block, but having rotated the tires, and seeing a lot of tread left on the other tire, you think these are still usable for the same track or does the worn center track make them scrap?
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This looks like normal track wear. Beveled center blocks where the bevel is towards the outside is quite normal. The car is pushing on that edge a lot when cornering. If you're tearing the blocks that indicates overdriven tires. Wear on one side is always higher depending in the track layout.

Your right shoulder wear is from not enough negative camber. Get camber plates problem solved.
thanks for the reply.

Obviously the water grooves are gone from the center block, but having rotated the tires, and seeing a lot of tread left on the other tire, you think these are still usable for the same track or does the worn center track make them scrap?
They're are good to drive. Shoulders are gonna go first. You will cord them quick without camber plates.
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That’s almost exactly what mine looked like after a track day.
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That looks normal for pirellis and 35 psi is about right given we can't dial in a lot of camber. Still have plenty of life in them, they are good til they cord. The grooves are for hydroplane resistance, not grip, so as long as you are in the dry just keep running them.

Cup2s will not last longer and you will just spend more on tires.

If you are doing 6+ days a year, I would recommend getting camber plates installed and going to a 19" square setup and 285/35/19 Goodyear Supercar 3 (220TW) as they wear much better on track than the OEM Pirellis or Michelins.
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That looks normal for pirellis and 35 psi is about right given we can't dial in a lot of camber. Still have plenty of life in them, they are good til they cord. The grooves are for hydroplane resistance, not grip, so as long as you are in the dry just keep running them.

Cup2s will not last longer and you will just spend more on tires.

If you are doing 6+ days a year, I would recommend getting camber plates installed and going to a 19" square setup and 285/35/19 Goodyear Supercar 3 (220TW) as they wear much better on track than the OEM Pirellis or Michelins.
Cup2s are materially stiffer than ps4s and pirellis and stick way better.
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