Someone is STILL planning to steal my M3!!!

c0nrad · 07-17-2023, 04:40 AM

shout out to Clifton, hopefully the police can figure this out

Race_Doc11 · 07-17-2023, 12:23 PM

Someone’s M2 just got stolen. It seems to be the same method.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1895234&page=5

Icealicy · 07-17-2023, 05:28 PM

Wow this is insane! I'm going to keep going through the thread, but I've only read page 1...

BGM-M3COMP · 07-17-2023, 05:30 PM

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Originally Posted by Race_Doc11

Someone’s M2 just got stolen. It seems to be the same method.

https://g80.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh...1895234&page=5

Yup the thieves and the thieves that work at BMW helping the field thieves are probably reading this thread laughing because they know how to beat the system.

BEAR-AvHistory · 07-17-2023, 05:36 PM

Same general area as OP. How hard can it be to figure which dealer is the source?

G MONEY · 07-17-2023, 06:14 PM

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Same general area as OP. How hard can it be to figure which dealer is the source?

Dealer loves it. They will be selling more cars. They don’t give a shit about anyone!!😡😡

OGM1 · 07-17-2023, 08:57 PM

I don’t like to piss on government workers since they are often unsung heroes that shovel shit for thankless jobs, but this smells like DMV. I only say this because it’s unlikely that there’s a multi BMW dealership theft ring. A single dealership would get too hot too quickly, but a shady DMV employee could easily issue paperwork and you could hit up random dealerships for keys. Or there’s something BMW going on in another less regulated country.

Race_Doc11 · 07-17-2023, 09:23 PM

I think it’s time for some legal action against BMW NA for failing to ensure that keys are issued to the owners without restrict verification. Audi way back in 2014 requested me to have the car (RS5) at the time of ordering a key and receiving it although the dealer knew me very well. They even had the warranty cover it.

Icealicy · 07-17-2023, 09:32 PM

Can anyone breakdown anti-theft devices in the US (brands, types, any info on them) that folks use here and what is popular? Seems intriguing to get one installed...

BGM-M3COMP · 07-18-2023, 05:40 AM

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Originally Posted by BEAR-AvHistory

Same general area as OP. How hard can it be to figure which dealer is the source?

OP found out it was a dealer in nyc.

Either way it’s impossible there’s a loophole like this through something that’s supposedly sophisticated and “high end” like a bmw dealership with the technology we have today with computers and how they hold themselves to a higher standard to other dealers.

So that just means there’s someone on the inside as I been saying all along. Some low life making 18 bucks an hour. You think he cares about that job? When he can make a couple grand for each car he gets paperwork for for a new key fob?

DO444 · 07-18-2023, 08:31 PM

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Originally Posted by BGM-M3COMP

OP found out it was a dealer in nyc.

Either way it’s impossible there’s a loophole like this through something that’s supposedly sophisticated and “high end” like a bmw dealership with the technology we have today with computers and how they hold themselves to a higher standard to other dealers.

So that just means there’s someone on the inside as I been saying all along. Some low life making 18 bucks an hour. You think he cares about that job? When he can make a couple grand for each car he gets paperwork for for a new key fob?

You aren’t wrong.
And, it ain’t like he’ll even see any prison time so what is the downside really?

M3LISSA · 07-20-2023, 06:18 AM

This whole key thing at Open Road reminds me of “Gone in Sixty Seconds” where the kid knew someone at the dealer to copy the Benz keys…
Regardless, we’re too far advanced where this shouldn’t be happening… BMW NA needs to do something about this

JerseyG80 · 07-20-2023, 11:01 AM

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Originally Posted by M3LISSA

This whole key thing at Open Road reminds me of “Gone in Sixty Seconds” where the kid knew someone at the dealer to copy the Benz keys…
Regardless, we’re too far advanced where this shouldn’t be happening… BMW NA needs to do something about this

Agreed. To date, I have not received an adequate response from BMW about this whole situation. They have my number..

Forzanerazzurri · 07-20-2023, 12:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Race_Doc11

I think it’s time for some legal action against BMW NA for failing to ensure that keys are issued to the owners without restrict verification. Audi way back in 2014 requested me to have the car (RS5) at the time of ordering a key and receiving it although the dealer knew me very well. They even had the warranty cover it.

Why would BMA NA be liable for this?

jmoh · 07-20-2023, 03:53 PM

They don't call them stealerships for no reason...

G MONEY · 07-21-2023, 07:05 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyG80

Agreed. To date, I have not received an adequate response from BMW about this whole situation. They have my number..

Cause the have zero fucks to give. Douche nozzles

BGM-M3COMP · 07-22-2023, 01:44 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyG80

Agreed. To date, I have not received an adequate response from BMW about this whole situation. They have my number..

I guess they don't care.

And why aren't you trying to sue yet?

Race_Doc11 · 07-22-2023, 08:21 PM

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Originally Posted by JerseyG80

Agreed. To date, I have not received an adequate response from BMW about this whole situation. They have my number..

The only language they understand is legal. Start with sending a certified letter explaining the situation holding them responsible for lack of security measures of coping keys. They will respond.

Needsdecaf · 07-22-2023, 09:36 PM

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Originally Posted by Race_Doc11

The only language they understand is legal. Start with your attorneysending a certified letter explaining the situation holding them responsible for lack of security measures of coping keys. They will respond.

Fixed it for you.

Race_Doc11 · 07-23-2023, 11:45 AM

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Originally Posted by Needsdecaf

Fixed it for you.

Even better👍

Race_Doc11 · 07-23-2023, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Why would BMA NA be liable for this?

Because they should have a restricted security policy for validating identity to copy keys. They will have one once they get sued and hold liable in court. This is not a dealer issue it is a cooperate matter.

crypto · 07-23-2023, 11:55 AM

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Originally Posted by Race_Doc11

Because they should have a restricted security policy for validating identity to copy keys. They will have one once they get sued and hold liable in court. This is not a dealer issue it is a cooperate matter.

So someone showed up to the dealership with the right info, documentation, and a fake ID. What exactly do you think the dealership should have done? DNA test? Lol

Also what are you suing them for in court exactly? And you think you will win damages that will be worth more than hiring a lawyer?

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