[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by nalnass

What’s the difference like? My last manual I drove was a Mazda 3 and it’s been 10 years. Worried about picking my car up

Don’t worry. It’s like riding a bike. The bmw manual transmission is easy to use - and with all the power at your disposal very difficult to stall. Brake hold keeps you from rolling back on hills. Very positive engagement of the stick in each gear and a smooth engagement point with the clutch. The clutch isn’t too heavy or too light.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Don’t worry. It’s like riding a bike. The bmw manual transmission is easy to use - and with all the power at your disposal very difficult to stall. Brake hold keeps you from rolling back on hills. Very positive engagement of the stick in each gear and a smooth engagement point with the clutch. The clutch isn’t too heavy or too light.

100% agree. On top I did the CDV delete on my G82. I couldn't pick on the manual transmission anymore

[Pool Shark]

Originally Posted by nalnass

What’s the difference like? My last manual I drove was a Mazda 3 and it’s been 10 years. Worried about picking my car up

I wouldn't be worried, it was just a very different feel from the Accord.

Originally Posted by MT6

It does take a few drives to get used to the throttle response of M3

For a smooth roll from dead stop drive a few days with engine in Efficiency or sport mode until you get a hang of it on Sport+

After a while sometimes you shall experience jerky rolls in the Accord right after a spirited M3 drive

All pleasures of Manual Transmission

No doubt the throttle response was very different from what I am used to. . And I agree with your prediction that once I'm comfortable with the M3, it'll be jerky transition when driving the Accord.

Originally Posted by bri1042

You'll adjust soon enough. When I picked up my 6MT M3 in March of 21, it had been almost 8 years to the day since I'd last owned an MT, and that car was a 140tq/201hp Acura RSX-S that I'd owned for 7.5 years. 25 years of MT instincts came back within a day, and I'd adjusted to the reality of the BMW manual vs. all my Hondas within about a week.

I am hoping to quickly acclimate to the BMW manual--just waiting on some "warm" days over 40F and no precipitation.

Originally Posted by CJ421

These manuals are pretty easy to drive and difficult to stall. If you have manual experience, I doubt you'll have problems.

Get the car going with just the clutch a few times in the parking lot before heading home. Best take your shoes off for that so you feel the exact engagement point. And the rest will be history.

Charles

Regarding stalling, this is especially true...based on the power of the car, I bet I could slowly let out the clutch (on a relatively flat road) and not have to press the accelerator pedal. If I did that on the Accord, it may start to shudder a bit before stalling.

[wavyyyy]

Car goes with just the clutch gas not needed at all

[Ezra168]

Glad to read so many good comments on the manual transmission!

When I test drove an M3 and M4 manual, the clutch felt drastically lighter then previous cars I’ve had. Is this you alls experience as well? I currently own a manual 2019 370Z

Also….for those of you with the parking assistance package, does it actually work with the manual? I haven’t seen many good posts on this.

[eugenebmw]

Originally Posted by Ezra168

Glad to read so many good comments on the manual transmission!

When I test drove an M3 and M4 manual, the clutch felt drastically lighter then previous cars I’ve had. Is this you alls experience as well? I currently own a manual 2019 370Z

Also….for those of you with the parking assistance package, does it actually work with the manual? I haven’t seen many good posts on this.

Yes, the parking assistance work with the manual on my G82. It even work when I do parallel parking reverse up the hill. You have to pay attention on the idrive screen. It will tell you what to do. Most of the time, I park without using the parking assistance because it take about 45 sec to park. But it come in handy when you need to park your car at night with pouring rain and tinted glass.

[Pool Shark]

I haven't tried this yet, but it is on my list to get familiar with.

[MT6]

MT on 6 cylinder engine with sensitive throttle is tricker to roll smooth in 1st & 2nd gears likely due to high torque. You always have to temper the launch a bit.

4 cylinder engines NA or Turbo are easier to roll with MT

Just my experience

[Regg01]

Hi everyone,

I also have a brand new 24 manual G80. I agree the clutch engagement takes some getting used to. I am from the Subaru world and own one manual Subaru.

One thing I noticed is my clutch pedal is slightly higher than the brake pedal and it's a different feel than what I'm used to. It took some getting used to (especially when switching between manual cars) but I'm wondering if this is the same with everyone else's cars? I'm approaching my break-in service and wanted to get a consensus on that in case it's worth mentioning.

Thanks!

[AG23]

Originally Posted by Regg01

Hi everyone,

I also have a brand new 24 manual G80. I agree the clutch engagement takes some getting used to. I am from the Subaru world and own one manual Subaru.

One thing I noticed is my clutch pedal is slightly higher than the brake pedal and it's a different feel than what I'm used to. It took some getting used to (especially when switching between manual cars) but I'm wondering if this is the same with everyone else's cars? I'm approaching my break-in service and wanted to get a consensus on that in case it's worth mentioning.

Thanks!

Yes same for me. I have a 23 wrx I daily and the clutch position on the m3 is higher. Some get modified clutch stops to shorten the travel.

[Mike02z]

1) Are you loving it
Absolutely!
2) Is the shifter feel mechanical enough for you
Yes
3) What has your clutch engagement been in sport vs efficiency modes
BMS clutch stop and CDV removal fixes this.
4) Time it takes for Transmission to warm up
Depending on the weather, within a few miles
5) Points you like to share
Had a ‘24 Dravit Gray M4C. It was an amazing car but it was not nearly as fun as the Manual.

[2011ninja]

I had an i4M50 as a loaner.

586 Foot Pounds of instant POWER!

It actually made me laugh how powerful it felt.

When you’re just driving normal it’s an absolute SNOOZE fest. It becomes any pedestrian vehicle.

M3 6 Speed manual For the win!

[mcsquared]

Originally Posted by Regg01

Hi everyone,

I also have a brand new 24 manual G80. I agree the clutch engagement takes some getting used to. I am from the Subaru world and own one manual Subaru.

One thing I noticed is my clutch pedal is slightly higher than the brake pedal and it's a different feel than what I'm used to. It took some getting used to (especially when switching between manual cars) but I'm wondering if this is the same with everyone else's cars? I'm approaching my break-in service and wanted to get a consensus on that in case it's worth mentioning.

Thanks!

I came from a ‘21 STi. Different engagement points, different feeling, different pedal stroke/height, etc.

Takes some time to get it right, and with about 2850 miles on mine, I’m still getting used to it. I don’t use the auto rev-matching feature, but, at times it’s nice to know it’s there if I’m feeling super lazy. Sometimes (rarely), I drive in comfort mode, and always forget rev-matching is enabled. Then I switch back to m1/sport mode and all is well with the world again!

[skyline408]

The 6MT gearbox is not bad on the G80. clutch action is light and predictable (except for the 1-2 shift!) But the throws are just a tad long if you're coming from any other 6MT car. I still find it very engaging and fun to drive.

[mcsquared]

1-4 are close. 5-6 are fairly long throws. By then, you’re going way too fast anyway!

[bri1042]

Originally Posted by 2011ninja

I had an i4M50 as a loaner.

586 Foot Pounds of instant POWER!

It actually made me laugh how powerful it felt.

When you’re just driving normal it’s an absolute SNOOZE fest. It becomes any pedestrian vehicle.

M3 6 Speed manual For the win!

I had the same experience when I drove one. I had one opportunity to really hit the throttle and it was fun enough, but otherwise it wasn't fun at all. The M240i loaner I had in March felt pretty much the same as the i4 M50 did. The i4 M50 feels like a slightly faster M-lite. Compared to the rest of the electric cars I've driven, that's a huge compliment to the i4.

The overall experience doesn't come close to the G8x manual experience.

[omaralt]

Originally Posted by mcsquared

1-4 are close. 5-6 are fairly long throws. By then, you’re going way too fast anyway!

thats exactly how it should be! i test drove a cayman gts 4.0 with a manual and what a terrible spaced gear box. 2nd gear and you're over 70mph in a naturally aspirated engine that begs to be revved (and not to mention feels underpowered bellow 4k rpm). i want the first 4 gears tightly spaced and then long 5-6 for highway driving. if anything i think 6th gear should be longer. i'm around 3k rpm at 80mph which is a bit too high IMO

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by omaralt

if anything i think 6th gear should be longer. i'm around 3k rpm at 80mph which is a bit too high IMO

Good for passing power, but BMW has refused to change this over, well, any generation of M3. My ‘98 corvette was running closer to 2000 rpm at 80, so getting high 20s MPG hwy on a NA v8. That gear ratio was 0.5:1!

[omaralt]

Originally Posted by Bimmerfun82

Good for passing power, but BMW has refused to change this over, well, any generation of M3. My ‘98 corvette was running closer to 2000 rpm at 80, so getting high 20s MPG hwy on a NA v8. That gear ratio was 0.5:1!

agreed. its nice to have that power on tap immediately when on the highway. but honestly if i was doing a lot of highway driving this would not be the car i would drive.

[mcsquared]

True for most cars with manuals. They are dying out, regardless, for the most part.

[Bimmerfun82]

Originally Posted by omaralt

agreed. its nice to have that power on tap immediately when on the highway. but honestly if i was doing a lot of highway driving this would not be the car i would drive.

It could be worse: the GT3 manual 6 speed has a final gear ratio of 1.097 (v M3 0.846). About 3200 v 2900 rpm at 80 mph in 6th. And of course then you’d be in a Porsche, which would be unfortunate.

992 GTS 7 sp manual top gear ratio is 0.62 or about 2100-2200 rpm at 80 mph.

[sbgolfer2221]

Love my 23 G8p 6MT - did 3 things to improving shift feels - cdv delete. Was an improvement not mind blowing. Rogue rear shift bushing, tightened it up a bit but not mind blowing. M perf knob from prior gen - that change made the prior two feel that much better - just way more feel since it’s a lighter knob. I would hope many manual owners would consider these 3 small changes - it really improved the shifting feel and experience for me.

Love the car - did a few other mods like BMS drop ins / awe switch path/ sst valve controller