[dms-01]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Yes

The M5 actually starts at $103k, so the existing M3 can already be optioned up into that range. And given that the M2 CS and M5 CS carry $25k and $40k premiums above the standard models, respectively, that suggests a base price in the $100k-110k range. (BMW knows that fans appreciate and will buy these limited-edition models, without worrying too much about cannibalizing sales from other models.)

Yeah the previous M3CS sold so well at $100k+ that BMW was giving them away.

[MadBimmeRad]

Why would anybody but the M4 CSL if everything (minus the AWD) is the same in the M3 CS?

[BMWFanatic2008]

LCI for G80 M3 is coming out July this year.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by The_Transporter

So I just got an allocation from a dealer and am getting a production number tomorrow morning for a M3 comp xDrive. What is the timeline for these updates? Am I going to miss it by days/weeks? Not sure if I hold out till next month to get the next MY with these updates… thoughts?

LCI updates might come in by july with MY23.

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by MadBimmeRad

Why would anybody but the M4 CSL if everything (minus the AWD) is the same in the M3 CS?

I understand the comment, eager to see the difference in driving dynamics.

I understand the "rarity" of the CSL but it doesn not mean much to me, I am buying these cars to drive them !

[LOW4LYF]

Originally Posted by dms-01

Yeah the previous M3CS sold so well at $100k+ that BMW was giving them away.

Right?


I remember the lease for a 2019 CS 114K was cheaper by $200 per month as my 2016 F82 ZCP for 84K.

However...I do think the new generation will be more expensive tho, totally different market currently.

[BardG]

Originally Posted by ynguldyn

G80 M3 CS update from the Future BMW Models Information thread.

• M3 CS powertrain and features: 540hp, automatic, xDrive, standard bucket seats, standard new M specific headlights, also lots of carbon things as standard.
  
• G80 M3 CS appears to have been accelerated from July to March 2023. Production will span 03/23 - 02/24.
  
• The powertrain is confirmed to match M4 CSL. However, while M4 CSL is RWD, M3 CS will be xDrive AWD.

Admin edit: also see M3 CS spy pics.

Any sense on pricing?

[SpencerC_6MT]

Originally Posted by PLF69

I understand the comment, eager to see the difference in driving dynamics.

I understand the "rarity" of the CSL but it doesn not mean much to me, I am buying these cars to drive them !

From what I understand, the M3 CS will probably follow in the footsteps of the M5 CS, with bucket seats in the back, decent lightening efforts, and a bit of extra power. It seems the M4 CSL will go the extra mile with rear seat deletion, more radical lightening strategies, and a roll cage in allowable markets. The M4 GT/H will be a CSL with stock M4 drivetrain, since BMW engineers seem to be firmly planted at that 400lb-ft limit for the GS6-45BZ transmission. A shame the GT/H won't be available in the US, since we're the biggest market for archaic technology

[PLF69]

Originally Posted by watermelon3878

From what I understand, the M3 CS will probably follow in the footsteps of the M5 CS, with bucket seats in the back, decent lightening efforts, and a bit of extra power. It seems the M4 CSL will go the extra mile with rear seat deletion, more radical lightening strategies, and a roll cage in allowable markets. The M4 GT/H will be a CSL with stock M4 drivetrain, since BMW engineers seem to be firmly planted at that 400lb-ft limit for the GS6-45BZ transmission. A shame the GT/H won't be available in the US, since we're the biggest market for archaic technology

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At least I got the lease deal BRZ to scratch that hitch

[MadBimmeRad]

Originally Posted by PLF69

I understand the comment, eager to see the difference in driving dynamics.

I understand the "rarity" of the CSL but it doesn not mean much to me, I am buying these cars to drive them !

Indeed

I've got an order on the CSL but if the M3 CS is almost a carbon copy of it, then I'll have to seriously reconsider

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Purekoryo

Wonder how they're going to shave off 200+ lbs with the AWD. Wish they would've kept it RWD with 305 Cup2's and 100+ lbs lighter and get it well into the 3600's.

You probably missed the absence of the letter "L".

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by AMHM

Any idea if these M3 CS will have Driver Assistance Pro (5AU) features? As a benchmark, the M5 CS does not.

No 5AU on this one either.

[barryc365]

Originally Posted by RSXDC5

But has BMW doubled down on their failed exterior design approach? Yes
Did they listen to any customers? No
Did they update any concept models in-pipeline to back off their stupid design language? Nope

Doubling down when you are doing the wrong thing is not smart, and it appears BMW has done that yet again.

I'm not sad, I'm disappointed.

I love when all the G80 haters come out from hiding but really just out themselves as closet G80 fans lurking in the background. We see you!

They are failing so badly that you can't get one at MSRP and have to join months long wait lists. If that is what failure looks like, I wish I failed as well in my line of business!

[Chicane_]

Originally Posted by watermelon3878

From what I understand, the M3 CS will probably follow in the footsteps of the M5 CS, with bucket seats in the back, decent lightening efforts, and a bit of extra power. It seems the M4 CSL will go the extra mile with rear seat deletion, more radical lightening strategies, and a roll cage in allowable markets. The M4 GT/H will be a CSL with stock M4 drivetrain, since BMW engineers seem to be firmly planted at that 400lb-ft limit for the GS6-45BZ transmission. A shame the GT/H won't be available in the US, since we're the biggest market for archaic technology

The M4 GTS was sold in the US/Canadian markets with roll bars so I assume the CSL will as well…. unless the laws have changed since then?

[NGT2]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

I dunno man. This past August in Monterey BMW had the iX, M5 CS, and M4 GT3 cars on display near each other, among many others. You can probably guess which one had the most people around it. Fair enough if you don’t like them, but the new designs don’t appear to be the failure you think they are. Just took delivery of my G82 last night and I’m about ready to have sex with it. Carbon-backed, big nose sex. Just as the good lord intended.

I like the mix of designs right now. I think the 4 series design makes it pop. I think the new M3 being differentiated from its lesser siblings is great. And I like that the 5 & 7 still have a classy traditional look. I think it fits each model and gives something for everyone. But that's just one man's opinion…

[FinalV8]

Meh….cool but my money will go towards allocation 1 for a 2023 M2, manual transmission, S58 and add a simple tune…400 lbs less, similar power. Btw love my 22 g80 xDrive, it's mega….just now want a more toss-able go-cart like, point and click manual…to feel more connected. Adding to the stable, not swapping out.

[ScullyD]

Originally Posted by Chicane_

The M4 GTS was sold in the US/Canadian markets with roll bars so I assume the CSL will as well…. unless the laws have changed since then?

What laws? You can get a GT3 without rollbars and no back seats. That was just BMW's decision to put in rollbars to avoid liability.

[themnmd]

540 HP might see 2.7-2.8 sec 0-60 times

[CanuckM]

Tempting tempting...

[jmg]

Originally Posted by dms-01

Yeah the previous M3CS sold so well at $100k+ that BMW was giving them away.

I hope the G8X CS and CSL sell equally as well so I can get one with a good discount!

[ccrinoz]

My dealer is still quite confident that there will be a m4 cs. He has 6 people on a list for m4 csl

Originally Posted by mistermarc

Well shit I put myself on the list for a M4 CS , need to have my dealer switch it to a M3 CS lol

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by ccrinoz

My dealer is still quite confident that there will be a m4 cs. He has 6 people on a list for m4 csl

Dealers are the last people to learn about new model releases.

Telling the people at my local BMW dealership about the cars they should expect 1-2 years out used to be (when I still owned BMWs) one of the best parts of this hobby.