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01-24-2021, 12:17 PM | #68 | |
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Complete waste of ad dollars for BMW having green lighted this collaboration. Majority of M3/M4 cars will be sold to the same old demographic aka prior owners and those of us who are coming up from non M cars since it's usually what we aspire to own next. These cars doesn't appeal to the masses or the Kith hoodie wearing, Supreme crowd, that's what the F44 cars are for. M3/M4 along with the M2 are for driving enthusiasts. They're harder edge by default which means the KITH wearing demographic is not the target group.
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Is this the last ICE powered M3? Or are we expecting a hybrid next?
I guess with 2 electric motors they could replace the mechanical AWD system but guessing the batteries will bring the weight back if not more? With new ICE car sales bans coming soon in Europe I somehow don't see BMW developing a new powerplant just for the M3. |
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Not sure if it will be the last ICE powered M3 but it probably will be the last that's ICE powering all four wheels. I could see the next generation bing ICE powering the rear wheels and electric motor powering the front or possibly even 100% EV depending on how things advance. Either way next generation will likely be heavier as electrification adds weight.
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01-25-2021, 05:18 PM | #72 |
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I bet next m3/m4 might be all electric.
Model 3 performance is like 4100 lbs. G80 m3 with awd is going to be close to that. 7 years of battery technology will get us, I assume, 400 mi real world range in next 7 years. Taycan is starting to show what an m5 electric car might look like. If gm and Ford sell electric pick up type things, battery cost per watt is going to come down in a hurry. Instant torque and maybe 3 motors in 2028 could be a pretty exciting m3/m4 proposition. That and by then maybe a bunch of tracks will have high speed charging. The one near me already has a high speed charger. The electrons are coming. |
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01-26-2021, 04:13 PM | #73 | |
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The M CEO said in a video interview that in near future (next 5Y) there will be M hybrids and full M EVs coming. And as you already mentioned, already by 2025 some countries will stop imports / registrations of ICE only new car models. |
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01-26-2021, 04:19 PM | #74 |
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M mild hybrid with 48V system would be not so bad if the I6 is till there.
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Since we've been talking about BMW's absolutely bizarre marketing campaign, not just for the G80/82 but also for the iX...
It looks like BMW CAN still make some great ads when it wants to. Why couldn't all BMW marketing be like this?? This makes me absolutely want to buy an M5 CS... and gives me goosebumps in the process.
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i may be in the minority but I don't like the M5 CS at all...for me personally this is absoloutely overkill. It's in a luxury segment and not meant to be for racing purpose imo.
But each their own. I do completely love the M3CS and the M2CS. If I ever get hand on one of this (M2CS only MT) i will straight out buy one. They will hold their value extremely high |
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Ouch - thats a gut punch. That being said, the M5 CS ad is spot on. But look at the guy who "owns" the M5. Look at the 0:30s mark. He looks around as if he's disoriented, having a psychotic break or sundowning! Perhaps he starting down the road to old aged dementia? Whatever is happening, he's been placed so everyone is certain that he's getting on a bit in terms of age. Well the jokes on BMW - I wouldn't consider an M5 unless I was a 100 years older. Now excuse me while I go and cry in the corner.... |
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I thought the guy in the M5CS video is Kip from Napoleon Dynamite.
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After driving my 2021 M340xi with the cooling M Technology package for a week I can't imagine how much better the M3 could be. I definitely won't be ordering an M3 now because I was planning on trading the M340xi for an M3 XDrive in one or two years. Is possible that I can still change my mind but the new M3 has to be much better than the 340i for that to happen, will see what the reviews say.
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