[AndrewC1989]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Never going to be a fan of these.
I do not get the appeal.
Ugly.

Glad they don’t sell these in the states lol. I don’t wanna look at em. Station wagons are dead and should stay that way ha ha.

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[yousefnjr]

Originally Posted by EatThatLunchBaby

Am I the only one from the US who lusts after this? I would trade my G80 in for a wagon in a heartbeat! That being said, I might be more interested in a coupe if I didn’t have to daily the car.

I’m definitely of the camp that saw the grill and thought something horrible went wrong, but now I really love how it sets itself apart from the normal 3-series. To each their own! I think BMW is doing a pretty good job of providing some type of vehicle for everyone in their lineup

I had no interest in a touring until I got a big dog. Now it’s all I want

[JK479]

Originally Posted by playswcars

Everybody ended up eating their words on the G8x, it’s actually hilarious.

I’ll still take an m340i Xdrive OVER the m3 xdrive because of the looks. I’m also a former e90, e46 and f30 guy. I think if you love a look- and don’t like another look- you can’t come around based on speed.

[leftfootbr8king]

Originally Posted by DM5PAV

Never going to be a fan of these.
I do not get the appeal.
Ugly.

Glad they don’t sell these in the states lol. I don’t wanna look at em. Station wagons are dead and should stay that way ha ha.

So precious.

[BRAKE!]

Yeah, not sure if a wagon is what I would ever consider. It conjures up images of the Volvo and Subaru moms dropping kids off at school (nothing wrong with it)

To me, it doesn’t mesh with what a M3 should be, but what the hell do I know. BMW is putting M badges on every kind of car now

[Quadruple VANOS]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Why would anyone prefer the heavier, slower, uglier, less sporty, more awkwardly proportioned version of the M3? The British have always had weird fetishes with certain cars (Land Rover, anything in estate form, Ford Cortinas, GTIs, etc) but is this a case of Americans just wanting something they can't have? If i ever saw anyone with the estate version I would immediately think they had to choose it as a compromise with their wife.

My thoughts exactly. Even worse are the performace wagon people who only buy them for the look of utility, while they’re really never going to actually haul anything with them. The best ones though, are the people who then put a roof carrier box on their performance wagon. Like how much crap are you pretending to haul around?

[///393]

Originally Posted by Zamorskii

Lol, ok I googled him. A British journalist and car reviewer on Youtube with under 500k subscribers. Am I supposed to be impressed?

Weird flex to be an auto enthusiast that doesn’t know who Chris Harris is.

[EatThatLunchBaby]

Originally Posted by yousefnjr

I had no interest in a touring until I got a big dog. Now it’s all I want

I feel you there. I have two dogs, a cat, two kids, and another on the way. Life comes at ya fast!

[nick3753]

Originally Posted by Forzanerazzurri

Why would anyone prefer the heavier, slower, uglier, less sporty, more awkwardly proportioned version of the M3? The British have always had weird fetishes with certain cars (Land Rover, anything in estate form, Ford Cortinas, GTIs, etc) but is this a case of Americans just wanting something they can't have? If i ever saw anyone with the estate version I would immediately think they had to choose it as a compromise with their wife.

I daily an e92 M3 and my wife drives a S6. We were lucky enough to get a RS6 loaner for 5 weeks (Audi/VW emmissions testing programs). My 14 year old son is an adult sized hockey goalie. Shoving his gear in my car is chore and her S6 is only marginally better. The wagon is so easy, we went on a road trip for hockey and we’re able to stop at Costco on the way home and load up even with his gear and a suitcase. I know you can get the same practicality with an SUV/Truck but they sure as hell won’t drive the same. Unfortunately we can’t afford to buy one and in the US there just aren’t many options.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by JK479

I’ll still take an m340i Xdrive OVER the m3 xdrive because of the looks. I’m also a former e90, e46 and f30 guy. I think if you love a look- and don’t like another look- you can’t come around based on speed.

It’s not just speed. It’s handling, chassis rigidity, cooling, interior quality, all BMW M tuned, plus the S58, and extra configurabilty of the chassis, steering, brakes etc. There’s literally dozens of reasons to choose an M car over an M Performance car. Always was, always has been. This is from a former E21, F30 and F80 guy.

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by nick3753

I daily an e92 M3 and my wife drives a S6. We were lucky enough to get a RS6 loaner for 5 weeks (Audi/VW emmissions testing programs). My 14 year old son is an adult sized hockey goalie. Shoving his gear in my car is chore and her S6 is only marginally better. The wagon is so easy, we went on a road trip for hockey and we’re able to stop at Costco on the way home and load up even with his gear and a suitcase. I know you can get the same practicality with an SUV/Truck but they sure as hell won’t drive the same. Unfortunately we can’t afford to buy one and in the US there just aren’t many options.

I get the practicality argument and would definitely take the wagon over an SUV in your case.

[GoneIn4Secs]

That grill only looks good as a wagon

Which says alot for the so called flagship M design

[Forzanerazzurri]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

That grill only looks good as a wagon

Which says alot for the so called flagship M design

And the F87 is an underpowered econobox M car with a shit interior.

[G30M]

Originally Posted by clutchdj

I was thinking.. he wouldn't buy that shit after an M5cs that he owns.
pointless unless fitting skis on the roof.

iirc he has a big dirty dog

[JK479]

Originally Posted by jmg

It’s not just speed. It’s handling, chassis rigidity, cooling, interior quality, all BMW M tuned, plus the S58, and extra configurabilty of the chassis, steering, brakes etc. There’s literally dozens of reasons to choose an M car over an M Performance car. Always was, always has been. This is from a former E21, F30 and F80 guy.

There’s many cars that now do this- and look better too. Dozens of reasons maybe to choose outside the brand. I always aspired to one. As soon as I heard AWD I was dialed in. Until I saw it and drove it. Granted I drove one with the high performance seats that were greatly uncomfortable too.

The F80 was a brutal, almost dangerous car. But it was completely beautiful too- this one is a disappointment and I just can’t get excited about it the same way I used to like the old F car.

Luckily they seem to stay sold out, the brand is fine. It’s me who hasn’t followed. It’s okay though.

[JK479]

Originally Posted by GoneIn4Secs

That grill only looks good as a wagon

Which says alot for the so called flagship M design

It’s a stretch- grill isn’t aging well and sales fortunately are buried in years of COVID chip shortage that made almost all cars sell.

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by playswcars

Everybody ended up eating their words on the G8x, it’s actually hilarious.

Originally Posted by MCM4

I find it amusing when a man tosses aside his once powerful convictions and does an about face.

+2 to both of these statements.

[brava09]

Originally Posted by JK479

I’ll still take an m340i Xdrive OVER the m3 xdrive because of the looks. I’m also a former e90, e46 and f30 guy. I think if you love a look- and don’t like another look- you can’t come around based on speed.

I’ll take any G8X over any other BMW because of the looks, particularly the front end. And at the same time because G8X is the best driving car in BMW’s entire line-up currently

[TruthOne]

Wagons are the most overhyped cars there are. If you need space and want speed why get that over an X3M? Those handle damn good too . How crazy are people driving their wagons? Probably not any crazier than a Performance SUV so it doesn’t matter that it’s lower to the ground.

[VIERsr]

Originally Posted by Zamorskii

Lol, ok I googled him. A British journalist and car reviewer on Youtube with under 500k subscribers. Am I supposed to be impressed?

He is actually a bit more than a journalist, he is a former professional racing driver and was 'somebody' even before the social media era.
But most of all he is a person who is not ashamed to tell the pure truth about cars, unlike many others YouTubers who are always too politically correct, he is a person who if something is bad, he clearly says it is bad, while others would just say 'not right'.
He got a ban from Ferrari after some bad words about them, so he doesn't speak to get views, likes or visibility, he doesn't care and doesn't need to review cars to survive, that's why he is a trustworthy person.
And if he speaks so highly of a car that he clearly doesn't like, that means the car is really good.
One can agree or disagree with him, of course, but one can be assured that he is genuine and not biased.

Originally Posted by TruthOne

Wagons are the most overhyped cars there are. If you need space and want speed why get that over an X3M? Those handle damn good too . How crazy are people driving their wagons? Probably not any crazier than a Performance SUV so it doesn’t matter that it’s lower to the ground.

A wagon handles almost as well as a sedan because the increase in weight and center of gravity is almost negligible, which cannot be said of an suv. In fact, I do not see (indeed, there is not) any advantage of an suv over a wagon in terms of dynamics, and for me neither in look.

[jmg]

Originally Posted by JK479

There’s many cars that now do this- and look better too. Dozens of reasons maybe to choose outside the brand. I always aspired to one. As soon as I heard AWD I was dialed in. Until I saw it and drove it.

I couldn’t find one I liked.

[sahajesh]

Originally Posted by Higgs Boson

Did someone say you should be impressed or do you normally have strong emotional reactions to men named Harris? I don't think anyone cares if you're impressed or not...

What exactly are you looking for here?

Looking for his mum, given the reaction to his post