03-28-2021, 05:58 PM | #111 |
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If it was a difference like 700/month for a manual that I like or 1k+ for a awd competition spec ($300+ a month) I'd just take the rwd as I enjoy that too, but tbh otherwise I'd go awd cause you can turn it off.
I'm talking US lease prices btw. I used to be a big rwd guy but when you're in tight corners cars can go sideways so easy at this power levels it's annoying. |
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03-28-2021, 06:27 PM | #112 |
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RWD for me. I don't drive my fun cars in the rain enough to need AWD (and in the snow, never!), and I don't need the fastest 0 to 60 times for my car to feel special (stoplight hero I'm not). Of course if I do get caught in the rain, I know how to be careful.
I've driven my friend's F90, and even when you turn off the AWD, the steering still feels too numb and isolated, with that drive shaft still turning in the front. It's fast as hell, but rather boring to me. Too isolated, too big, and dare I say, almost too fast. ...which is why I never purchased the latest Audis, even though I love their interiors. The steering is just dead to me in an Audi, but they have awesome traction from a dig. The only Audi I would consider is that 1st Gen Audi R8, because that AWD system has negligent affect on its steering, and I like that design. |
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03-28-2021, 08:02 PM | #113 |
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The AWD will have great numbers on paper but for a daily driver, I'd skip the extra weight, complexity, and cost. Then again the G80 is starting the get to that size/weight where this could be treated like a fast GT in which case I could see the appeal of the AWD.
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03-28-2021, 08:28 PM | #114 |
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RWD for me. It doesn't snow here and if it did I would just get snow tires for winter like I did with my Miata in Connecticut. The right tires help a lot more in snow. AWD with the standard summer tires will still send you off the road fast. Having had mostly RWD but two AWD cars I've decided the front wheels should steer and the rears should propel. Plus the reviewers so far have said the car puts down the power very well. I don't drag race so traction off the line isn't important to me. All that said, I appreciate that the AWD likely will allow you to put it into pure RWD, so other than a relatively minor weight penalty I guess you get the best of both worlds.
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03-28-2021, 08:46 PM | #115 |
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I like the M AWD bc you also get RWD ... best of both worlds...
0-60 times are irrelevant ... until you feel your organs shift posteriorly and you quickly approach the speed limit. quickest car I've had this experience in is the 991.1 911 Turbo. I want to feel that more. The M3 isn't quite 911 Turbo level but I'm sure it's still very quick feeling. However ... traditionally, RWD is much more fun on an autocross or road course ... AWD had gotten very good but it still doesn't allow the same rotation that's really fun in a RWD. I'm torn... I always want to have at least one manual/RWD car but I'm shopping for a new track car and so: If I get a manual GT3, ZL1 1LE or C7 Z06 I'll probably get AWD/DCT If I get a C8 Z06 (dual clutch only) then I'll get manual M3.
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I would do AWD only if necessary, so if you spend significant time driving in rain/snow/icy conditions it might be the way to go. But if that isn't a factor (or you are comfortable with snow tires) RWD is the way to go. AWD will likely be faster at launch, so definitely the way to go if you spend significant time drag racing. 0 to 100 may be the most useless stat, whether it be a daily driver or a race car, very rarely if ever, do you launch from a standstill! It's the 80-120km and 100-200km that matter more to me(the s58 nailed it) and there is no difference between the AWD and RWD there. In my option in RWD out weights any potential performance benefits of AWD, in both handling and enjoy ability. In fact the AWD will only hinder performance in most conditions. Stick with the RWD! And enjoy your M4 |
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03-29-2021, 09:31 AM | #119 |
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If I was in the sun belt, RWD without a question. But where I live, as a daily, AWD is definitely more convenient.
In terms of driving experience, I don’t think AWD has anything over RWD. RWD is sharper, lighter, more fun to drive. Unless you count drag racing as driving experience.
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03-29-2021, 09:41 AM | #120 |
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Awd for me. Drag racing is something I enjoy and awd helps for sure. Not necessary, as I only race on the track, but I dig it. And then driving on the street, a little extra confidence I'm good with as well...Mostly due to the power levels that will be possible with tunes, etc.
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03-29-2021, 10:43 AM | #122 |
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We all agree the biggest advantages of AWD are:
- poor weather conditions (yes you can make RWD work most of the times but there's no denying that AWD will always work better in rain, snow & colder temperatures) - drag racing / stoplight racing But to me AWD will also put the power down better than RWD in other real world day-to-day situations like: - merging into traffic from a stop or yield position without going sideways and having traction control slow you down until you're well into 3rd. Reviewers proved that the G8x puts the power down better than an F8x but your tires are only new for a couple of thousand miles and then your traction starts getting worse & worse - then there's different scenarios with colder temperatures where traction on summer tires is further impacted - many of us end up tuning those cars and if you want to enjoy your extra power & torque at any speed below 60mph you probably need AWD in my opinion. Hard to imagine a 600whp RWD G8x putting the power down in 2nd gear and well into 3rd. - besides we don't know how the driving dynamics will be for the AWD version yet so we're making assumptions based on other AWD cars such as the F90 M5. I'm guessing even track performance will be much better and the car will take corners on the track or your spirited mountain drive much better and give you more confidence while still being rear-biased. Maybe not as much fun as RWD but definitely going to be interesting to experience something new with an ///M That's why I'm getting it
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I know I've seen a 120 lbs estimated figure somewhere but not from an official source
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AWD gives you a huge dose of security, but that's security I don't need, especially with how sophisticated the latest traction control and rear diff systems are these days. The RWD AMG GT puts the power down, and it seems like BMW nailed the RWD G82 as well...it may squirm a bit, but then it just goes. And the fact that we can how dial in exactly how much it'll squirm sounds like heaven to me. Again, glad BMW is giving us both options (RWD and AWD). So we can each be happy with our purchase. |
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We should all be thankful for BMW providing the G8x in both RWD & AWD options, and even with a RWD Manual in this day & age
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Agreed and it’s not like you can’t have both. If the AWD turns out to be a barnstormer with no major downgrades there’s enough time for most to upgrade for the next car after this since the majority here seem to lease. I always buy so I will wait to make sure I make the best choice for me. I’ll likely keep it until the next generation.
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Xdrive is great, my 330 was and was a great daily. But my fun cars have always been Astons and like the driving experience and feel RWD gives. M3c will be my daily and want a pure driving feel every day. Xdrive transfer box will mean 4 new tyres every time the rears get down... With 2 kids it would eat up my disposable too quickly... |
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I live in the “snow belt.” My RWD 335i sport has been extremely reliable with Blizzaks for 14 years now. It’s close to the time to say goodbye to this fantastic car; maybe a year or two.
I think my next car will likely be the g80 M3, new or used. I can’t say I’m convinced that the extra expense of AWD would be worth it for me. I also love the feel of RWD in “normal” conditions. |
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