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      06-23-2022, 07:00 AM   #155
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      06-23-2022, 07:22 AM   #156
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This maybe me over thinking it or overlooking something but I noticed the M3 Manual is not on the UK page.

Was the manual never offered or has it been removed from the page?
The UK never got the G8x manuals, only the M3/M4 Competition.

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I been hearing rumors that the 6MT will discontinued during the LCI refresh. Does anyone think these rumors hold true?

If this is the case I need to get my order into a dealership ASAP.
1. M3 LCI sedan production starts in a week, you can't order pre-LCIs anymore.

2. The 6MT M3 LCI is alive and kicking in e.g. Germany, see the pricelist here: https://www.bmw.de/content/dam/bmw/m...4774163833.pdf
The UK is infamous for its low MT take up. This is no surprise. They love their slushboxes on that rock.
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      06-23-2022, 07:33 AM   #157
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Sooo, I peaked at a couple of BMW sites and they both list M3 Competition Touring as "Petrol-Diesel".
Huh?

I thought they would list any combustion engine models with that labke, but there are plenty with Petrol only, like Z4.

Soo, will there be a diesel version that I missed in all the hype?

EDIT: Cancel the alarm. The way BMW sites are setup, they lure you to click on M3 Touring, but it takes you to a 3 series Touring site, where obviously you have 340i and 340d and M3 options. Mystery solved.
That said, Audi has a diesel S4, so it wouldn't be a first, I guess.
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How'd that F series GT thing sell? I think I've seen one in Toronto a city of 6 million in all the years. Those obscure models don't sell in a world where they can't keep enough X1/3 in stock. Is there a niche market? Yes. But M3/4 sales aren't huge to start with, what percentage of those would be a Touring? 10% maybe? Add in the homologation issue and this was never going to happen. We all knew that. Go buy the Audi. If you want to do the talking do it with your wallet.
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      06-23-2022, 08:22 AM   #159
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How'd that F series GT thing sell? I think I've seen one in Toronto a city of 6 million in all the years. Those obscure models don't sell in a world where they can't keep enough X1/3 in stock. Is there a niche market? Yes. But M3/4 sales aren't huge to start with, what percentage of those would be a Touring? 10% maybe? Add in the homologation issue and this was never going to happen. We all knew that. Go buy the Audi. If you want to do the talking do it with your wallet.
The 5, 6 (and I assume 3) GT are rumored to be the pet project of some BMW higher upper, who just had to have them built. They see abysmal sales in the US, not any worse than the sport wagons, and BMW should have spent the homologation money on the wagon instead.

If this is true, perhaps someone can confirm it, then BMW really missed an opportunity here, and shame on them.
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      06-23-2022, 08:26 AM   #160
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I don't understand why any driving enthusiast would choose a performance SUV over a performance wagon. This offers the same practicality as an X3M but is objectively a better driver's car. Better handling (lower CoG, less weight), more comfortable ride, and better fuel economy.
You are not quite correct, it does not offer the same practicality as an X3M. The X is bigger inside, has more ground clearance, and I think more towing capacity. The M is very limited in what it can do by its small ground clearance.

But yes the handling is better on the M, and probably the ride comfort too.

Put it this way, if you had to tow a boat or a race car, would you prefer a Chevy Suburban or an X5M? Given that you have to live with it outside of towing, my choice would be clear and simple.
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      06-23-2022, 08:36 AM   #161
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      06-23-2022, 09:20 AM   #162
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Guess we will have to wait 25 years here in the US. Will Canada get it earlier?
Looks like it might come to the States next year… in the form of the MOTO GP safety car 😂
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If I had the cash I’d take the Alpina B3 (although in the pre-LCI G21 - the new headlights and grille aren’t doing it for me)

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How'd that F series GT thing sell? I think I've seen one in Toronto a city of 6 million in all the years.
Anecdotally, there are more F34 3er GT driving around Munich than F30 sedans (Tourings are king, of course).

I'm currently in a small village in south France, and I regularly see two 3er GT and no 3er sedan parked on the streets.

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Those obscure models don't sell in a world where they can't keep enough X1/3 in stock.
In other markets, in-stock doesn't matter. In europe, almost all cars are built-to-order.
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      06-23-2022, 10:57 AM   #166
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Are they gonna sell m-performance tow strap at 599$ ?
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Still cant get over the goofy wheel setup of bigger sidewall upfront.

And then the crotch bump on the seats...

And the kidneys were discussed enough.

not a pretty car, but I wish it success as a WAGON so US can get more wagons in general. Shame about the looks though. They could have had a 3 series face on the wagon to be more low key, which is the whole bloody point of a fast wagon in Europe, but I digress.
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Are they gonna sell m-performance tow strap at 599$ ?
I was wondering about the performance gains of the rear window aero blades
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      06-23-2022, 03:58 PM   #170
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Slightly off topic, but relevant to the Americans feeling left out on this one… Haven't I read someplace that we're getting an M5 Touring in the US?
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      06-23-2022, 04:03 PM   #171
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      06-23-2022, 04:50 PM   #172
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      06-23-2022, 09:44 PM   #173
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I don't know what it is, but the front end sort of works on this car for me.

Real shame we aren't getting it stateside. I know BMW has good financial reasons not do, but damn it would be cool to see these around.
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Another high performance wagon that we can't have in the US. Not really much to say about that.

That commercial on the other hand… how did he have that many Legos? Why are these people just hanging out at a shipping port? Are we supposed to think that (possibly mentally ill) person was counting down the days until BMW released an M3 touring? Was the wall with all the tally marks in his home?? I have so many questions.
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