R44 Downpipes - Rodz_Rich M3

destoyan · 06-15-2022, 03:57 AM

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Originally Posted by Luc@Speed&Tech

I went from R44 catback-> R44 catback+ Dahler valve controller-> R44 catback+ Dahler valve controller + R44 catted downpipes within the span of 4,000 miles.

The R44 sounds good standalone but I wanted more sound and was initially planning to add catted downpipes but they weren't available at the time so I purchased the Dahler controller hoping it would give me the sound increase I wanted but unfortunately it didn't. I hopped on the R44 catted downpipes as soon as Rhys from R44 told me they were available. I love the set up now. It's difficult to gauge how much sound the downpipes added but if I were to guess I'd say it's a 30% increase in sound. It's very civilized in the lower RPM range but once you get past 3.5k rpm it screams. I find myself driving with the valves fully open 90% of the time.

Have you experienced drones or whatsoever? I am going with similar setup (catted DP + exhaust), so just of curiosity.
Thanks in advance!

BMWnation · 06-21-2022, 05:39 PM

I received my DP's today but they came with 02 spacer and not the mini cat within the DP as pictured and what's displayed on their website.
Fell like I got overpaid for DP's when I could of gotten it for half the price in the US + spacers

I hope they send the wrong DP's if not, I would hope they would correct their incorrect marketing

Fugazii · 06-21-2022, 09:20 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I received my DP's today but they came with 02 spacer and not the mini cat within the DP as pictured and what's displayed on their website.
Fell like I got overpaid for DP's when I could of gotten it for half the price in the US + spacers

I hope they send the wrong DP's if not, I would hope they would correct their incorrect marketing

I just ordered this makes me feel the same overpaid.

destoyan · 06-22-2022, 12:53 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I received my DP's today but they came with 02 spacer and not the mini cat within the DP as pictured and what's displayed on their website.
Fell like I got overpaid for DP's when I could of gotten it for half the price in the US + spacers

I hope they send the wrong DP's if not, I would hope they would correct their incorrect marketing

Did you order the Catted Version or the Catless Version?

BMWnation · 06-22-2022, 07:31 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by destoyan

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I received my DP's today but they came with 02 spacer and not the mini cat within the DP as pictured and what's displayed on their website.
Fell like I got overpaid for DP's when I could of gotten it for half the price in the US + spacers

I hope they send the wrong DP's if not, I would hope they would correct their incorrect marketing

Did you order the Catted Version or the Catless Version?

Catless supposedly should of came with their unique
mini cat but it came with 02 sim instead

AKSteve · 06-22-2022, 10:41 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

Catless supposedly should of came with their unique
mini cat but it came with 02 sim instead

Won't it flow better without the "mini cat" inside of it?

BMWnation · 06-22-2022, 08:33 PM

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Originally Posted by AKSteve

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

Catless supposedly should of came with their unique
mini cat but it came with 02 sim instead

Won't it flow better without the "mini cat" inside of it?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

Catless supposedly should of came with their unique
mini cat but it came with 02 sim instead

Won't it flow better without the "mini cat" inside of it?

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

Fugazii · 06-22-2022, 10:14 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

I noticed their customer service is not that great.

Indo Rider · 06-24-2022, 12:53 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

Any update from R44? I'm waiting for my order to ship and wondering if I need to make it clear to them that the only reason I chose their product is because of the somewhat novel solution of the minicat as described, pictured, advertised. Same as you, it sounds. Sending me anything else is unacceptable. I hope they explain your situation as a complete mistake. Thanks in advance for any info you can share.

destoyan · 06-27-2022, 11:23 PM

I've ordered mine catted DPs together with the Titanium Exhaust on 10.05.2022 and still waiting. I am reasonable guy, but soon it will be 2 months. I hope the parts will come soon and everything will be as expected.

P.S.: To be fair my friends from the shop told me, that they have delay issues with other manufacturers too.

AKSteve · 06-28-2022, 01:42 AM

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

3MW · 06-28-2022, 05:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

I ordered from TopGear, UK and they arrived within a week to Sweden.
This was during June. They list their stock om their site.

Rod_M3 · 06-28-2022, 11:10 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Steve their shipping is literally like 2-3 days through DHL . Might be doing quality check . Mine took the full 4 weeks . Soon as it ships . It comes quick

Rod_M3 · 06-28-2022, 11:15 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

Fugazii · 06-28-2022, 05:27 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

Yes we understand they can lower the price no complaints!

AKSteve · 06-29-2022, 03:07 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Steve their shipping is literally like 2-3 days through DHL . Might be doing quality check . Mine took the full 4 weeks . Soon as it ships . It comes quick

I didn't word my original post quite right. What I meant was that I was told it would take 2-4 weeks before my order would ship because the downpipes were still in production/on back order from their supplier. it's good to know that it will only take 2-3 days once they do ship.

BMWnation · 06-29-2022, 06:46 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

What would you define scamming/inaccurate marketing as?
I bought the DP's based on description, pictures etc…
It's BS they took 7 days to get back to me.
"They said the checked with there manufacturing team and I did get the correct unit"
Guess what, I now have a Check Engine light!

I need to say no more

Mcc420 · 06-29-2022, 07:06 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

What would you define scamming/inaccurate marketing as?
I bought the DP's based on description, pictures etc…
It's BS they took 7 days to get back to me.
"They said the checked with there manufacturing team and I did get the correct unit"
Guess what, I now have a Check Engine light!

I need to say no more

That sucks. I lucked out and bought them from a member. And they were the ones with the mini cats. Which work.

Fugazii · 06-29-2022, 10:03 PM

I just received Email conformation from DHL Yes it takes 4-weeks!

Indo Rider · 07-01-2022, 04:02 PM

Got mine today. They fucked me too. Bullshit O2 spacers and no internal mini-cats. Pretty pissed. Definitely bait-and-switch, if not outright scam.

Rod_M3 · 07-01-2022, 04:04 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

What would you define scamming/inaccurate marketing as?
I bought the DP's based on description, pictures etc…
It's BS they took 7 days to get back to me.
"They said the checked with there manufacturing team and I did get the correct unit"
Guess what, I now have a Check Engine light!

I need to say no more

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Originally Posted by BMWnation

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Originally Posted by Rod_M3

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Originally Posted by gatedR

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Originally Posted by Soylent

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Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

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Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

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Originally Posted by gatedR

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Originally Posted by Soylent

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Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

Quote:

Originally Posted by Rod_M3

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

Quote:

Originally Posted by AKSteve

When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting.

In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?

Quote:

Originally Posted by gatedR

Quote:

Originally Posted by Soylent

Quote:

Originally Posted by BMWnation

I assume it will, but the reason I bought this specific unit was not to deal with possible check engine light.

I'm still waiting for R44 to get back to me.

In another thread I asked if the minicat obstructed any of the flow and Zach (or someone else at R44) said that it did not. Defoulers, which I think you are describing, have been used to prevent cels for years. Probably doesn't matter which is used. However, does this mean the downpipes you received are made somewhere else and not the same quality as the nice ones originally posted? It may also be that this is a cheaper way to prevent the cel so why bother with the minicat

Need some clarification here.

I dont know if a spacer alone on this car would suffice and keep the CEL off. Alternatively, if you want their DP's you could just go the route of others and get the minicats yourself. I believe their about $50.00 US.

But it sounds like R44 is scamming people. After already overpaying to get rid of the secondary's this is discouraging. I really was hoping for the interior mini cats over spacers and external ones.

However their website still says "pre-order" for both the mini cat (non CEL) version and the 300 cell catted downpipes.

I wouldn't say scamming . They might be going through a shortage through the manufacturer . Not easy to source another manufacturer and get same quality . World is jacked up bro . I sell cars for a living . Ppl are waiting 2-3 months for a vehicle, due to shortage . Even our parts department . These ppl good ppl . I will put my money on it .

What would you define scamming/inaccurate marketing as?
I bought the DP's based on description, pictures etc…
It's BS they took 7 days to get back to me.
"They said the checked with there manufacturing team and I did get the correct unit"
Guess what, I now have a Check Engine light!

I need to say no more

I wouldn't even have installed . I would of sent back.

Fugazii · 07-02-2022, 03:46 AM

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Originally Posted by Indo Rider

Got mine today. They fucked me too. Bullshit O2 spacers and no internal mini-cats. Pretty pissed. Definitely bait-and-switch, if not outright scam.

Yep got mine today nothing like mentioned, but I got a free pack of gummy bear's that helped lol!

06-21-2022, 05:39 PM	#24
BMWnation BMWnation 425 Rep 514 Posts Drives: 335i, 535, M4 Join Date: Apr 2006 Location: Bergen NJ iTrader: (1)	I received my DP's today but they came with 02 spacer and not the mini cat within the DP as pictured and what's displayed on their website. Fell like I got overpaid for DP's when I could of gotten it for half the price in the US + spacers I hope they send the wrong DP's if not, I would hope they would correct their incorrect marketing
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06-27-2022, 11:23 PM	#32
destoyan Second Lieutenant 522 Rep 217 Posts Drives: BMW M3 Competition XDrive Join Date: Mar 2022 Location: Bulgaria iTrader: (0) Garage List [0.00]	I've ordered mine catted DPs together with the Titanium Exhaust on 10.05.2022 and still waiting. I am reasonable guy, but soon it will be 2 months. I hope the parts will come soon and everything will be as expected. P.S.: To be fair my friends from the shop told me, that they have delay issues with other manufacturers too.
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06-28-2022, 01:42 AM	#33
AKSteve Second Lieutenant 153 Rep 241 Posts Drives: G82 M4 Competition Convertible Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: Alaska iTrader: (0)	When I placed my order on the 8th of June, I received an email back saying it would take 2-4 weeks to ship. So I'm about midway through the 3rd week of waiting. In case I decide to cancel after a month, is there another option for catted downpipes from another vendor that are actually in stock and ready to ship?
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06-29-2022, 10:03 PM	#41
Fugazii Captain 235 Rep 755 Posts Drives: G82/2022 Join Date: Sep 2016 Location: WPB iTrader: (0)	I just received Email conformation from DHL Yes it takes 4-weeks!
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07-01-2022, 04:02 PM	#42
Indo Rider Captain 540 Rep 728 Posts Drives: 135 Join Date: Apr 2012 Location: United States iTrader: (0)	Got mine today. They fucked me too. Bullshit O2 spacers and no internal mini-cats. Pretty pissed. Definitely bait-and-switch, if not outright scam.
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