[clutchdj]

we have some consistency the figures look like the car. First year. Year 2-3 will have more incentives and hopefully the aftermarket will have solutions by then.

[jaylazy2020]

Originally Posted by Poochie

Those residual numbers are horrible; you're basically paying to rent the car for around roughly 50% of its MSRP cost, in 36 months..

I guess the G8Xs isn't going to be the leasing darling that F8Xs were, you have to buy it if you really want it..

All good things..

In Ireland an M4 is around $150k new.

So you'd be doing very well if you realise half of after driving it for three years.

[Bumpinjeep]

Dang, these lease numbers are insane.
I can't imagine paying $1300 a month to rent an M3. It just doesn't make any sense.
My mom is leasing a new 2020 Volvo XC60. The MSRP was $51K I believe (great car BTW). Her monthly payments are $440 and she put down $1500.

Hell, you could simply buy a $83K car, with 1.99% at 72 months, you're looking at $1,282.31. And that is with $0 trade in and $0 down.

[OriginalFake]

You realize this is typically how the lease numbers look when these things are brand new, right?

[Salespunk]

Originally Posted by wasya152

Got these numbers from a BMW rep today.

This is more expensive than buying the car with similar out of pocket.

[Thewolfbmw]

Originally Posted by wasya152

What should be the expected lease amount for 36 month lease on the car be then?

Assuming elite tier for BMW credit, a 60 month Select loan with zero down would be +/- $1,070 a month.

You will be upside down before you can start the car but it's a much better price.

The select programs on the launches are always good and then they go down. The X3M started out around 32% of MSRP, now it's like 16%. That percentage is the balloon payment at the end.

[MKParris]

This is about double what my F80 went for....sorry but this isnt twice the car.

[wasya152]

Originally Posted by Thewolfbmw

I calculated $1,285 with zero drive off for 36 months at 10k a year. I also used .00082 MF, 56% residual, $500 loyalty, $995 acquisition fee. Unsure of IL tax, I used 9%.

CALCULATOR | LEASEHACKR
https://leasehackr.com/calculator

My understanding is that dealers that where able to move M2's and M2CS, where given early build spots. This comes from a person from a dealership.

So finally heard back from my regular rep. The previous quote was based on me calling a random bmw dealer, not my dealer that I usually deal with, and he quoted me $1200 with no money down.

[wasya152]

So I finally heard back from my regular rep. The previous quote was based on me calling a BMW dealer, not my dealer that I usually deal with, and he quoted me $1200 with no money down.

[CarbonAlpine]

I was in this dilema with the e92 lci, I did the select loan and at the end the pay off was $34k, my interest was 0.9 for 36. I sold the car for $46k after 40 months. You gotta play with the different options and see what works best, but those initial numbers aren't the best

[gemini.m3]

Yet another reason not to get one - these are going to go for absurd discounts before the end of the year, I would be hesitant to lock in a 3 year deal at those numbers when people will be paying 200-300 beneath that within or after that first year.

[josehb]

Originally Posted by backslashv

could you provide the direct link to this?

https://www.bmwusa.com/special-offers.html

[josehb]

Originally Posted by Bumpinjeep

Dang, these lease numbers are insane.
I can't imagine paying $1300 a month to rent an M3. It just doesn't make any sense.
My mom is leasing a new 2020 Volvo XC60. The MSRP was $51K I believe (great car BTW). Her monthly payments are $440 and she put down $1500.

Hell, you could simply buy a $83K car, with 1.99% at 72 months, you're looking at $1,282.31. And that is with $0 trade in and $0 down.

Buying is always better than leasing in most cases but now for this car is a no brainer buying is the only way to go.

[josehb]

Originally Posted by deceptiv.M3

Yet another reason not to get one - these are going to go for absurd discounts before the end of the year, I would be hesitant to lock in a 3 year deal at those numbers when people will be paying 200-300 beneath that within or after that first year.

Not before this year but in another year or two, similar to the M340.

[Bumpinjeep]

Originally Posted by josehb

Buying is always better than leasing in most cases but now for this car is a no brainer buying is the only way to go.

Leasing is great if you can get your monthly payment super low, to rent your car. But man, paying quadruple digit figures every month is nuts.

[snareman]

Check out the amortization schedule here and compare it to where you'd be in 3 years with lease payments. If I go with an 80k car and put zero down with the 1.9% BMW loan rate, the payments are obviously higher, but I'm down to $33k at the end of 3 years and I'm sure the car will be worth more than that at that point. I'm making about 15k selling my current M4 from a similar situation. You shouldn't put anything down on a lease, but obviously if you can put something down on a loan you'll be even more ahead of the game. I always lease, but this has me reconsidering it.

https://www.amortization-calc.com/au...an-calculator/

[pikkagtr]

A lot of the time if you get a great price on a lease off the msrp it's the better option
My F80 was 79$k msrp and I got it for $70500
It was a 2018 and I got it april 2019 as my second M3 replacement hence the low selling price as it sat for 10 months
It was 61% residual so buyout at lease end was $48k
It had $500 bmwcca and $1k loyalty
Making my total price $69k
My out of pocket is 21k for 3 yrs not counting tax and interest
You'd be hard pressed to find 583$/month for an $79k car with any amount of financing for purchase

Like anything that's new the G80 will be expensive
Just wait untill the market stabilize and these should be lease able in the $750-800/month with zero down soon enough

[snareman]

Originally Posted by pikkagtr

A lot of the time if you get a great price on a lease off the msrp it's the better option
My F80 was 79$k msrp and I got it for $70500
It was a 2018 and I got it april 2019 as my second M3 replacement hence the low selling price as it sat for 10 months
It was 61% residual so buyout at lease end was $48k
It had $500 bmwcca and $1k loyalty
Making my total price $69k
My out of pocket is 21k for 3 yrs not counting tax and interest
You'd be hard pressed to find 583$/month for an $79k car with any amount of financing for purchase

Like anything that's new the G80 will be expensive
Just wait untill the market stabilize and these should be lease able in the $750-800/month with zero down soon enough

That sounds awful optimistic. I got my 2nd M4 in 2018, well into it's lifecycle and I couldn't get numbers anywhere near that.

[backslashv]

Originally Posted by josehb

https://www.bmwusa.com/special-offers.html

Can't see the residuals and mileages there. It just shows $869/month.

[DownShift2Go]

Originally Posted by backslashv

Can't see the residuals and mileages there. It just shows $869/month.

Heh, for me it shows an $889/month with $6k down (4185 cap reduction, acq fee + fist payment). Residual value $45,000, which is 58% of the $77,595 msrp (I thought it was 56% in the other thread).
So, 889 * 35 + 6000 = 37,115 divided by 30k miles is $1.23 per mile.

[snareman]

Originally Posted by DownShift2Go

Heh, for me it shows an $889/month with $6k down (4185 cap reduction, acq fee + fist payment). Residual value $45,000, which is 58% of the $77,595 msrp (I thought it was 56% in the other thread).
So, 889 * 35 + 6000 = 37,115 divided by 30k miles is $1.23 per mile.

Here's what it shows with the details. It says M3, but also says M4 so I'm not sure if this applies to both or just the M3.
I like that the dealer is going to throw in $75???

[DownShift2Go]

Originally Posted by snareman

I like that the dealer is going to throw in $75???

Ha! I saw that and thought 'now there's an offer that I just can't refuse'.