Rubbing with pirelli's and spacers

M3GALLY · 01-05-2023, 05:26 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostin335

12mm will rub with Pirellis?

Also, is there more likelihood of rubbing with a G80 or G82 and does xDrive add to that further? - Anyone can answer this one and chime in

I’m 10 up front and 12 in the back and confirm I rub with pirellis - switched out to my Michelin winter set and no rubbing

Chad11491 · 01-05-2023, 06:07 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostin335

12mm will rub with Pirellis?

Also, is there more likelihood of rubbing with a G80 or G82 and does xDrive add to that further? - Anyone can answer this one and chime in

I have 10mm all around on P0’s / RWD with no rub at all. It looks very close up front to rubbing the liner at full lock, so I’d imagine anything more will rub.

Boostin335 · 01-05-2023, 07:37 PM

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Originally Posted by M3GALLY

I’m 10 up front and 12 in the back and confirm I rub with pirellis - switched out to my Michelin winter set and no rubbing

Thanks for the reply. Did you rub both front and back or just 1?

My car is landing Jan 9th. I hope to god I have Michelins lol

M3GALLY · 01-05-2023, 07:38 PM

Front at full lock

Boostin335 · 01-05-2023, 08:27 PM

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Originally Posted by M3GALLY

Front at full lock

Are you xdrive? And is there anything you've done or will do or just deal with it for the times you are full lock. I guess you could go 5mm but does that even make a visual improvement?

M3GALLY · 01-05-2023, 08:29 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostin335

Are you xdrive? And is there anything you've done or will do or just deal with it for the times you are full lock. I guess you could go 5mm but does that even make a visual improvement?

I’m enjoying not dealing with it for the moment might have to shave the fender in the summer

Xdrive

Limegrntaln · 01-11-2023, 10:01 AM

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Originally Posted by Boostin335

Are you xdrive? And is there anything you've done or will do or just deal with it for the times you are full lock. I guess you could go 5mm but does that even make a visual improvement?

Pirellis rub with my 10mm, xDrive. They don't rub on a RWD car. The xDrive car has a quicker steering rack, which apparently changes the steering angle, every so slightly, just enough for the tires to rub, in that last little bit, in reverse.

Boostin335 · 01-11-2023, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by Limegrntaln

Pirellis rub with my 10mm, xDrive. They don't rub on a RWD car. The xDrive car has a quicker steering rack, which apparently changes the steering angle, every so slightly, just enough for the tires to rub, in that last little bit, in reverse.

So if car has Pirellis, 5 in front and 10 back? If you did 12 back might not look proper.

Limegrntaln · 01-11-2023, 12:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Boostin335

So if car has Pirellis, 5 in front and 10 back? If you did 12 back might not look proper.

12mm spacers in the rear with 2 different sets of wheels. Both sets of wheels are OEM and +20 offset. Car is lowered 20mm.

Edit: actually pic 3 is the front. That’s with 10mm spacers.

chujk1985 · 03-10-2023, 11:57 AM

I have a 23 comp xdrive. Just put on 12mm future classics on front and rear and rub pretty hard on front while backing up and turning. Has any on successfully trimmed your fender to do away with this? I see a couple of pics in this thread, but were these lasting solutions? thanks!

CC M3C X · 03-10-2023, 04:12 PM

I believe people have had success with the trimming option but I used a heat gun. Slowly heated up the area where it makes contact and once playable I pressed it forward and held it there until it cooled. I just used a leather work/gardening glove for the hand that I was holding it with because I got it pretty hot (didn’t want anything cracking when I pushed it forward). Seems to have worked great. Have heard zero contact since.

Caladin · 03-10-2023, 05:15 PM

Can someone confirm what is the largest spacer size that will not rub with Pirellis and STOCK height?

Specifically, I’d like to know if if 12F/12R will work and if not if 10F/10R will work…with stock height.

Thanks!

biglilsteve · 03-10-2023, 06:52 PM

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Originally Posted by Caladin

Can someone confirm what is the largest spacer size that will not rub with Pirellis and STOCK height?

Specifically, I’d like to know if if 12F/12R will work and if not if 10F/10R will work…with stock height.

Thanks!

No one has reported problems with 10/10. 12/12 (and greater) has had mixed results. I’m personally running 10/10 eBay spacers with zero issues.

placebo0311 · 03-10-2023, 08:03 PM

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Originally Posted by chujk1985

I have a 23 comp xdrive. Just put on 12mm future classics on front and rear and rub pretty hard on front while backing up and turning. Has any on successfully trimmed your fender to do away with this? I see a couple of pics in this thread, but were these lasting solutions? thanks!

I have 15 mm spacers up front with the Pirelli's. I trimmed the front fender fins a couple of months ago both sides and for what it's worth I have not noticed or heard any rubbing that I can tell at least.

chujk1985 · 03-11-2023, 09:17 AM

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Originally Posted by placebo0311

I have 15 mm spacers up front with the Pirelli's. I trimmed the front fender fins a couple of months ago both sides and for what it's worth I have not noticed or heard any rubbing that I can tell at least.

Did you trim all of them or just a few?

placebo0311 · 03-11-2023, 09:19 AM

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Originally Posted by chujk1985

Did you trim all of them or just a few?

Just trimmed them all. Took 15 minutes with a Dremmel. Easier than trying to cut them, at least it was for me.

Edit: Let me clarify, I cut all of the ones on the outer column (the column furthest from the engine on both sides, hope that makes sense). I left all the other ones alone.

vitipr · 03-12-2023, 01:49 AM

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Originally Posted by Caladin

Can someone confirm what is the largest spacer size that will not rub with Pirellis and STOCK height?

Specifically, I’d like to know if if 12F/12R will work and if not if 10F/10R will work…with stock height.

Thanks!

12 front. I have Pirellis, xdrive but I applied heat to the fender. Like the video posted. Have tried anything larger than 12mm tho.

chujk1985 · 03-12-2023, 06:24 PM

Has anyone tried modifying their fender liner to be like the ones that IND offers? Wonder if I can just cut the finds out and glue or somehow attach some mesh in its place

papadick · 03-12-2023, 06:50 PM

I have pirelli’s with H&R springs with 12mm spacers front and rear with no rubbing.

CC M3C X · 03-13-2023, 05:56 PM

I have 15mm on all for corners with Perelli’s and I am lowered. I had the expected contact with the vents after installing the spacers. Pulled both front wheels and used a heat gun to make the area where the tire was contacting the vents pliable. Once hot enough I pushed and held them forward. Here is some North Idaho engiuity for you. Grabbed a handful of snow and held it on the heated area to cool it because they want to go back to original shape. This worked perfectly and I was very happy to see that they did not start rubbing again once I lowered the car. I can go full lock forward and reverse without any issues. Also, just as a side note, I do not rub on the rear fenders with three grown adults in the back. It looks like they would rub but the rear tires just barely clear the fenders. Perfect setup for me!

Boogie2121 · 03-15-2023, 12:30 AM

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Originally Posted by mike@x-ph.com

I'm getting it soon; the car will look much better with the bigger spacers in the front.

Did you install?

chujk1985 · 03-15-2023, 09:37 AM

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Originally Posted by papadick

I have pirelli’s with H&R springs with 12mm spacers front and rear with no rubbing.

H&R sports?

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chujk1985 Major 543 Rep 1,029 Posts Drives: 2023 G80 M3 X Comp Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: St. Louis iTrader: (1)	I have a 23 comp xdrive. Just put on 12mm future classics on front and rear and rub pretty hard on front while backing up and turning. Has any on successfully trimmed your fender to do away with this? I see a couple of pics in this thread, but were these lasting solutions? thanks!
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CC M3C X First Lieutenant 947 Rep 398 Posts Drives: M3 Comp Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: PNW iTrader: (0)	I believe people have had success with the trimming option but I used a heat gun. Slowly heated up the area where it makes contact and once playable I pressed it forward and held it there until it cooled. I just used a leather work/gardening glove for the hand that I was holding it with because I got it pretty hot (didn’t want anything cracking when I pushed it forward). Seems to have worked great. Have heard zero contact since.
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chujk1985 Major 543 Rep 1,029 Posts Drives: 2023 G80 M3 X Comp Join Date: Oct 2018 Location: St. Louis iTrader: (1)	Has anyone tried modifying their fender liner to be like the ones that IND offers? Wonder if I can just cut the finds out and glue or somehow attach some mesh in its place
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CC M3C X First Lieutenant 947 Rep 398 Posts Drives: M3 Comp Xdrive Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: PNW iTrader: (0)	I have 15mm on all for corners with Perelli’s and I am lowered. I had the expected contact with the vents after installing the spacers. Pulled both front wheels and used a heat gun to make the area where the tire was contacting the vents pliable. Once hot enough I pushed and held them forward. Here is some North Idaho engiuity for you. Grabbed a handful of snow and held it on the heated area to cool it because they want to go back to original shape. This worked perfectly and I was very happy to see that they did not start rubbing again once I lowered the car. I can go full lock forward and reverse without any issues. Also, just as a side note, I do not rub on the rear fenders with three grown adults in the back. It looks like they would rub but the rear tires just barely clear the fenders. Perfect setup for me!
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