Rubbing with pirelli's and spacers

MIM5 · 09-07-2022, 07:34 AM

Anyone else figure out a way to get rid of the rubbing at full lock in reverse? I expected it with running 15mm front with pirelli's, so I shaved off half of the 3 fins that everyone says needs to be modified and it still rubs on both sides on full lock reverse. The fitment is exactly what I wanted, but it's annoying when reversing out of a parking spot. Pics of the car lowered on ast springs and bms 15mm spacers front, and 13mm back. Also pics of the cut fins.

mike@x-ph.com · 09-07-2022, 08:50 AM

i had the same issue with 13mm spacers and Michelin. I had to go back to 10mm spacers to resolve it.

r33_RGSport · 09-07-2022, 08:55 AM

Best way is to have a buddy to drive the car while you are keeping an eye to see where it still rub.
From there, shave it where it rubs.

forza1976 · 09-07-2022, 11:08 AM

This has been documented in SEVERAL threads. P0's are fat and they rub with spacers. End of story.

iviegatron · 09-07-2022, 07:55 PM

I'm running 18mm with Pirellis. After cutting the fins in the pic below, noise was gone.

MIM5 · 09-08-2022, 10:22 AM

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Originally Posted by iviegatron

I'm running 18mm with Pirellis. After cutting the fins in the pic below, noise was gone.

I didn't fully cut them off, so maybe I'll try that. I figured if I shaved them down half way it was better then nothing to have some protection of rocks and such coming up and hitting those coolers.

Ariboon · 09-08-2022, 11:14 AM

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Originally Posted by MIM5

I didn't fully cut them off, so maybe I'll try that. I figured if I shaved them down half way it was better then nothing to have some protection of rocks and such coming up and hitting those coolers.

Have you tried heating up and pushed back this part? This could also be an area that rubs.

///MeraldCity_G82 · 09-08-2022, 03:32 PM

I have 15mm with pzero up front with zero rubbing. It depends on how low your car is. Not everyone is at the same height. It might still be rubbing the upper one. Trim those down and go from there. Also turn your wheel full lock and see where the closest contact point is.

You also did not shave it all across, try that.

Anderson11 · 09-08-2022, 03:58 PM

Pretty interesting way to increase clearance. Starts at 6 minutes 50 seconds.
Heat first, cut/shave later?

MIM5 · 09-08-2022, 10:01 PM

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Originally Posted by Ariboon

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Originally Posted by MIM5

I didn't fully cut them off, so maybe I'll try that. I figured if I shaved them down half way it was better then nothing to have some protection of rocks and such coming up and hitting those coolers.

Have you tried heating up and pushed back this part? This could also be an area that rubs.

I'm going to wait for the weekend to have a friend reverse to see where it's rubbing. If it's that spot I'll try to heat it up and push that piece in.

yocubed · 09-09-2022, 03:15 PM

Well if it matters it seems like the folks at iND are reading our minds. If you don't want to cut fins and have cash to blow.
https://ind-distribution.com/collect...nder-liner-set

FloridaMan_G82 · 09-18-2022, 10:24 PM

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Originally Posted by yocubed

Well if it matters it seems like the folks at iND are reading our minds. If you don't want to cut fins and have cash to blow.
https://ind-distribution.com/collections/m4-g82-g83/products/rkp-g8x-m3-m4-enhanced-clearance-front-fender-liner-set

Dang those would be perfect, but i can't justify 900 bucks on fender liners lol. I wonder how much oem liners are, would maybe like to try and modify myself

yocubed · 09-18-2022, 11:06 PM

From the looks of the part diagram you're looking for parts 51718070503 and 51718070504 respectively. MSRP is under $100 a piece.
Item #2 in the link
https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/a/BMW...m/51_Z243.html

FloridaMan_G82 · 09-25-2022, 01:56 PM

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Originally Posted by yocubed

From the looks of the part diagram you're looking for parts 51718070503 and 51718070504 respectively. MSRP is under $100 a piece.
Item #2 in the link
https://parts.bmwnorthwest.com/a/BMW_2022_M4-Comp-M-xDrive-Coupe/_52022_9259603/Wheelarch-trim/51_Z243.html

Geeze, so they are charging 700$ to cut out the fins and bolt a little grate to them lol

placebo0311 · 12-13-2022, 09:40 AM

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Originally Posted by MIM5

I'm going to wait for the weekend to have a friend reverse to see where it's rubbing. If it's that spot I'll try to heat it up and push that piece in.

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but installing some springs and spacers next week and wanted to see if you had found your rubbing point. Have PZeros as well.

yousefnjr · 12-13-2022, 11:10 AM

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Originally Posted by yocubed

Well if it matters it seems like the folks at iND are reading our minds. If you don't want to cut fins and have cash to blow.
https://ind-distribution.com/collect...nder-liner-set

Man if these were ~$400 or so I’d be down. Almost a G is real steep.

Nado · 12-14-2022, 10:06 AM

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Originally Posted by placebo0311

Sorry to bring this back from the dead, but installing some springs and spacers next week and wanted to see if you had found your rubbing point. Have PZeros as well.

I got the Pirellis as well. What springs are you going with?

Im thinking about just getting 11mm all around and going from there.

placebo0311 · 12-14-2022, 06:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Nado

I got the Pirellis as well. What springs are you going with?

Im thinking about just getting 11mm all around and going from there.

I have the MSS spring kit. Took it off my 2022 so everything is settled. I had the PS4S on that car but didn't get them this time around. I had 15 and 12 mm spacers for that car and was really hoping I can use them again here. If I have to modify the fender liners so be it. Rather do that than have to buy all new spacers. Just need to know what I need modify at this point. Was going to shave down all three columns of the fins. Hoping I don't have to remove them completely but sounds like I may have to if I want to prevent rubbing. Wanted to make sure there weren't other rubbing points to consider too.

mike@x-ph.com · 12-15-2022, 08:40 AM

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Originally Posted by yousefnjr

Man if these were ~$400 or so I’d be down. Almost a G is real steep.

I'm getting it soon; the car will look much better with the bigger spacers in the front.

Nado · 12-15-2022, 08:41 AM

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Originally Posted by placebo0311

I have the MSS spring kit. Took it off my 2022 so everything is settled. I had the PS4S on that car but didn't get them this time around. I had 15 and 12 mm spacers for that car and was really hoping I can use them again here. If I have to modify the fender liners so be it. Rather do that than have to buy all new spacers. Just need to know what I need modify at this point. Was going to shave down all three columns of the fins. Hoping I don't have to remove them completely but sounds like I may have to if I want to prevent rubbing. Wanted to make sure there weren't other rubbing points to consider too.

You have MSS springs, or the MSS adjustable kit?

placebo0311 · 12-15-2022, 11:43 AM

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Originally Posted by Nado

You have MSS springs, or the MSS adjustable kit?

Sorry the adjustable kit.

Boostin335 · 01-05-2023, 04:39 PM

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Originally Posted by Nado

I got the Pirellis as well. What springs are you going with?

Im thinking about just getting 11mm all around and going from there.

12mm will rub with Pirellis?

Also, is there more likelihood of rubbing with a G80 or G82 and does xDrive add to that further? - Anyone can answer this one and chime in

09-07-2022, 07:34 AM	#1
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iviegatron Lieutenant Colonel 2542 Rep 1,682 Posts Drives: G80 M3 Join Date: Jul 2021 Location: Richmond, TX iTrader: (0)	I'm running 18mm with Pirellis. After cutting the fins in the pic below, noise was gone. Attached Images
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///MeraldCity_G82 Captain 1143 Rep 679 Posts Drives: 2021 BSM M3C Join Date: Mar 2014 Location: Seattle iTrader: (1)	I have 15mm with pzero up front with zero rubbing. It depends on how low your car is. Not everyone is at the same height. It might still be rubbing the upper one. Trim those down and go from there. Also turn your wheel full lock and see where the closest contact point is. You also did not shave it all across, try that.
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Anderson11 First Lieutenant 458 Rep 328 Posts Drives: 2023 BMW M4 Comp Join Date: Oct 2020 Location: New Hampshire iTrader: (0)	Pretty interesting way to increase clearance. Starts at 6 minutes 50 seconds. Heat first, cut/shave later? __________________ 2023 M4 Comp Dravit Grey Metallic
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