[Team Tonka]

So your rear is just a tad lower than the front correct?

Some pics of that "life hack" would be valuable!

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

The fronts are 15 full turns from the bottom of the perch. I used the locking screw as my measurement to make a full turn. You can do that by hand with a wheel off the ground.

The rears even with the KW 15MM coil spacer currently have about 2/3rd" gap between the perch and collar. I can stick my index finger between the base and where the adjustable collar is. Those are a bitch to adjust. Most shops just drop the lower control arm and dial them in, and repeat until they get it right since the perch mount doesnt lock into place into the body and will spin when you try to adjust the collar. I ended up raising mine up from where the shop had them originally. Which I think WAS around the middle of the adjustment range WITH the KW 15MM spacer. I think I raised mine about 2 turns from where it was.

FISH22 shared a life hack to me on how to adjust the rear collar without having to drop the lower arm. It worked great for me and I spent a few hours doing that until I got mine up to what you see in my pics now.

Since the rear perch base spins in its mount as you try to adjust the collar, you have to either drop the arm or put some kind of pressure on the perch mount to keep it from spinning as you try to spin the collar. His advice was to put a long socket extension with a big socket head on the end of it up inside the lower control arm hole that is directly below the spring. Run that socket and extension up that hole in-between the spring until the socket head touches the black perch mount in the middle of the spring (the rear shock is not inside the spring like the front is). Think of a long shock piston in the middle of the spring. With the car on jack stands, Use a small jack and put pressure upward on that socket and extension you have poking out of the bottom of the lower control arm up to the black perch mount. Use just enough pressure on the perch mount to keep still. dont let it raise the car up higher as its already on jack stands. Doing that gave me the ability to raise my rear up at home without having to go to a shop. The adjustment room is limited. Meaning I could only turn the dial 1/4 a turn at a time. But I got it done and was able to do it myself which was nice.

My front is 14, 1/2" from center of wheel hub to fender edge.
My rear is 14, 1/4" from center of wheel hub to fender edge.

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by Team Tonka

So your rear is just a tad lower than the front correct?

Some pics of that "life hack" would be valuable!

No. If anything my car has slight forward rake or its level. The front fenders are higher than the rear. I think they are 1/4" cut higher up.

Here's how I got my perch to stay put. Thanks to FISH22 for the suggestion.

Rear of car on jack stands.
Socket extension.
Big socket on top
Through the hole in the lower arm directly under the spring.
Up the middle of the spring until the socket presses on the inside of the spring perch.
Small jack to push the socket extension poking out the bottom of the control arm so that it applies light pressure to the perch (dont do too much, you dont not want to lift the car off the jacks).

[Team Tonka]

Have any pictures of how your PZero's look with the spacers your currently using and it lowered as mentioned?

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

The fronts are 15 full turns from the bottom of the perch. I used the locking screw as my measurement to make a full turn. You can do that by hand with a wheel off the ground.

The rears even with the KW 15MM coil spacer currently have about 2/3rd" gap between the perch and collar. I can stick my index finger between the base and where the adjustable collar is. Those are a bitch to adjust. Most shops just drop the lower control arm and dial them in, and repeat until they get it right since the perch mount doesnt lock into place into the body and will spin when you try to adjust the collar. I ended up raising mine up from where the shop had them originally. Which I think WAS around the middle of the adjustment range WITH the KW 15MM spacer. I think I raised mine about 2 turns from where it was.

FISH22 shared a life hack to me on how to adjust the rear collar without having to drop the lower arm. It worked great for me and I spent a few hours doing that until I got mine up to what you see in my pics now.

Since the rear perch base spins in its mount as you try to adjust the collar, you have to either drop the arm or put some kind of pressure on the perch mount to keep it from spinning as you try to spin the collar. His advice was to put a long socket extension with a big socket head on the end of it up inside the lower control arm hole that is directly below the spring. Run that socket and extension up that hole in-between the spring until the socket head touches the black perch mount in the middle of the spring (the rear shock is not inside the spring like the front is). Think of a long shock piston in the middle of the spring. With the car on jack stands, Use a small jack and put pressure upward on that socket and extension you have poking out of the bottom of the lower control arm up to the black perch mount. Use just enough pressure on the perch mount to keep still. dont let it raise the car up higher as its already on jack stands. Doing that gave me the ability to raise my rear up at home without having to go to a shop. The adjustment room is limited. Meaning I could only turn the dial 1/4 a turn at a time. But I got it done and was able to do it myself which was nice.

My front is 14, 1/2" from center of wheel hub to fender edge.
My rear is 14, 1/4" from center of wheel hub to fender edge.

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by Team Tonka

Have any pictures of how your PZero's look with the spacers your currently using and it lowered as mentioned?

Sure here you go.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Team Tonka

Have any pictures of how your PZero's look with the spacers your currently using and it lowered as mentioned?

I had a G80 with 15mm spacers square and pirellis for your viewing pleasure

[Team Tonka]

And those are 10mm up Front and 12mm rear?

Originally Posted by BIGW0RM

Sure here you go.

[Team Tonka]

xDrive? How did you prevent rubbing as it looks lowered as well?

Originally Posted by Vic55

I had a G80 with 15mm spacers square and pirellis for your viewing pleasure

[BIGW0RM]

Originally Posted by Team Tonka

And those are 10mm up Front and 12mm rear?

15MM front 12MM rear. I rubbed on 12MM rear when I was lower than what I am now with the Pzeros. I will get 15MM rear once I get some michelins all around.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Team Tonka

xDrive? How did you prevent rubbing as it looks lowered as well?

RWD but X drive doesnt change the ride height ...

It was lowered via MSS and I had the front inside fender fins melted and pushed in. Same as shaving just rebuilt the shape a little.

No body fender rubbing at all.

[Team Tonka]

Seems like not to many recommend 15mm spacers for the rear on the PZeros. But maybe that is for those that drop the rear a lot?

Originally Posted by Vic55

RWD but X drive doesnt change the ride height ...

It was lowered via MSS and I had the front inside fender fins melted and pushed in. Same as shaving just rebuilt the shape a little.

No body fender rubbing at all.

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by Team Tonka

Seems like not to many recommend 15mm spacers for the rear on the PZeros. But maybe that is for those that drop the rear a lot?

Mine drop was fairly aggressive as you can see and I had 15s, no rubbing.

[gatedR]

Originally Posted by Vic55

Mine drop was fairly aggressive as you can see and I had 15s, no rubbing.

What were you dropped on?

[Vic55]

Originally Posted by gatedR

What were you dropped on?

MSS HAS

[Team Tonka]

Finally picked up my M3 xDrive this weekend. First impression, the rear stock height is fine with me. Just the front should be dropped IMO. Ugh.

[squadra21]

Finally got the Eibach installed. The height looks perfect (to me), aesthetically I feel like this is how the car should've came from factory. I am very sensitive to how a car rides/handles and to me there is zero change. I would go as far as to say that it's basically stock (no exaggeration). I'd highly recommend it for those that do not want to go full coils.

[raywai2]

Originally Posted by squadra21

Finally got the Eibach installed. The height looks perfect (to me), aesthetically I feel like this is how the car should've came from factory. I am very sensitive to how a car rides/handles and to me there is zero change. I would go as far as to say that it's basically stock (no exaggeration). I'd highly recommend it for those that do not want to go full coils.

Where did you order the front springs?

[squadra21]

I had a buddy of mine order them from Motech directly and shipped it over to the states.

[pinky_chi]

Originally Posted by raywai2

Where did you order the front springs?

Looks like R44 carries them as well:

https://usa.r44performance.com/produ...springs-m3-g80

[pinky_chi]

Originally Posted by squadra21

Finally got the Eibach installed. The height looks perfect (to me), aesthetically I feel like this is how the car should've came from factory. I am very sensitive to how a car rides/handles and to me there is zero change. I would go as far as to say that it's basically stock (no exaggeration). I'd highly recommend it for those that do not want to go full coils.

Thinking of going this route as well. Any more pics of your car?

[raywai2]

Originally Posted by squadra21

Finally got the Eibach installed. The height looks perfect (to me), aesthetically I feel like this is how the car should've came from factory. I am very sensitive to how a car rides/handles and to me there is zero change. I would go as far as to say that it's basically stock (no exaggeration). I'd highly recommend it for those that do not want to go full coils.

Is the change in rake noticeable with just lowering the front by 20mm?

[squadra21]

Originally Posted by pinky_chi

Thinking of going this route as well. Any more pics of your car?

Not at the moment, I’ll post more this weekend.

Originally Posted by raywai2

Is the change in rake noticeable with just lowering the front by 20mm?

Not at all, it looks natural which is why I’m pretty satisfied with it. I’ll post side shots later this week.

[squadra21]

Originally Posted by pinky_chi

Thinking of going this route as well. Any more pics of your car?

Originally Posted by raywai2

Is the change in rake noticeable with just lowering the front by 20mm?

This should give you guys a better idea. Both F&R are completely level now.