['Cane]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

My SA informed me today that a Dravit Grey order (which is only semi-Individual) would incur a $5k surcharge by the dealer because of the additional production delay. They rationalize it because it slows down the throughput of G80's that they're able to sell, hence defers their revenues/profits.

(Needless to say, I am checking with other dealers in the area...)

That's why you shouldn't talk sales with a Service Advisor, and just work with your Client Advisor.

But it's still showing $1950 on the configurator, smells like BS to me.

[calbears]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

That's why you shouldn't talk sales with a Service Advisor, and just work with your Client Advisor.

But it's still showing $1950 on the configurator, smells like BS to me.

sounds like another way of applying a market adjustment

['Cane]

Originally Posted by calbears

sounds like another way of applying a market adjustment

I'm not sure how they could do it that way, it would still show as $1950 on the Monroney label.

[calbears]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

I'm not sure how they could do it that way, it would still show as $1950 on the Monroney label.

True, it'd just me a market adjustment for another $3k

['Cane]

Originally Posted by calbears

True, it'd just me a market adjustment for another $3k

Which is even dumber since individual colors are only $4500 (another $2550). I'd definitely call them out on it.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by 'Cane

That's why you shouldn't talk sales with a Service Advisor, and just work with your Client Advisor.

But it's still showing $1950 on the configurator, smells like BS to me.

Sorry, typo... CA, obviously. Yes, this would effectively be a $5k market adjustment by the dealership (on top of the $1950 Dravit Grey fee by BMW). And yes, it's BS.

['Cane]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

Sorry, typo... CA, obviously. Yes, this would effectively be a $5k market adjustment by the dealership (on top of the $1950 Dravit Grey fee by BMW). And yes, it's BS.

Wow, that's terrible. I can't believe how bold some of these dealers are in their attempts to just outright rob people.

[vj123]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

My CA informed me today that a Dravit Grey order (which is only semi-Individual) would incur a $5k surcharge by the dealer because of the additional production delay. They rationalize it because it slows down the throughput of G80's that they're able to sell, hence defers their revenues/profits.

We live in a time where a dealer is so worried about a manufacturer's throughput!

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by vj123

We live in a time where a dealer is so worried about a manufacturer's throughput!

I think they're more worried about their own throughput. For example, without any special orders/Individual, they can move maybe 2 G80's per month. But if one of them is an Individual, then it still uses up one of the dealer allocations, but it takes them longer (6-10 weeks) before delivery, and hence defers the realized sale/revenue on it.

So, yes, it slows down their throughput, but still, that's obnoxious IMO.

[bmw noob]

Originally Posted by calbears

Yes, depending on the vehicle, the range is about $400-$500

Interesting…though I actually meant from BMW’s standpoint. It is the incremental cost for production chain disruption that interests me.

[calbears]

Originally Posted by bmw noob

Interesting…though I actually meant from BMW’s standpoint. It is the incremental cost for production chain disruption that interests me.

Most likely a small marginal cost to do the individual paints, but also have consider the bit of a disruption to the production line

[vj123]

Originally Posted by NightWriter

I think they're more worried about their own throughput. For example, without any special orders/Individual, they can move maybe 2 G80's per month. But if one of them is an Individual, then it still uses up one of the dealer allocations, but it takes them longer (6-10 weeks) before delivery, and hence defers the realized sale/revenue on it.

So, yes, it slows down their throughput, but still, that's obnoxious IMO.

But theoretically, DG isnt an individual order. Unless its a frozen paint or a real individual color, other vehicles most likely would not add any additional production time because of the chosen paint.

In the current market, any vehicle can be stuck in a stop sale and as a result might sit in the factory or VPC for months. Its just another fancy way of charging ADM.

[NightWriter]

Originally Posted by vj123

But theoretically, DG isnt an individual order. Unless its a frozen paint or a real individual color, other vehicles most likely would not add any additional production time because of the chosen paint.

In the current market, any vehicle can be stuck in a stop sale and as a result might sit in the factory or VPC for months. Its just another fancy way of charging ADM.

Yep, exactly. Though when a car's sitting at the pier, there's not much the dealership can do about it. But when a customer has signed up to pay more and wait longer for a special paint, then clearly they're a good target for exploiting some additional ADM.

I get that DG and a couple others aren't fully "individual" (lower price and threshold for approval), but I'm not sure what the difference is from a manufacturing/assembly line perspective.

[Rayien]

just a thought. you can just get the IND front painted reflector for 150$ in an individual color. Once you pick the color, sell the other reflectors to someone else who is or is planning to order the color.

[AndrewBarkerBMWno1]

If you check out my Instagram page you should find most individual colours on actual BMW's. Andrew.Barker.BMW
So many colours to choose from!

[snareman]

Originally Posted by AndrewBarkerBMWno1

If you check out my Instagram page you should find most individual colours on actual BMW's. Andrew.Barker.BMW
So many colours to choose from!

The challenge though is knowing what they look like in person. Santorini, Enzian and Voodoo look practically identical on the internet. That was my challenge in deciding and why I had these made.

[STREETBOSS]

Can you guys tell me where I can order the little car in individual colors so I can see them in the sunlight before I place oder have been to several dealership in my area grey individual paint samples are very limited or none existing.
Help before I order wrong color looking at them online is not the same as in your hand outside in the sunny light.

[STREETBOSS]

Who the vendor I have #9 grey samples I want painted

[chicagofan00]

Originally Posted by STREETBOSS

Can you guys tell me where I can order the little car in individual colors so I can see them in the sunlight before I place oder have been to several dealership in my area grey individual paint samples are very limited or none existing.
Help before I order wrong color looking at them online is not the same as in your hand outside in the sunny light.

https://ind-distribution.com/collect...ed-speed-shape

[Chapter2099]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

https://ind-distribution.com/collect...ed-speed-shape

I didn’t even know this existed. This is awesome. Thank you for posting this!

[snareman]

Originally Posted by chicagofan00

https://ind-distribution.com/collect...ed-speed-shape

Wow, even more expensive. I guess it is iND... They are proud of their products.