[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by eljay

Very true.
But it didn't stop those RS6 Avant orders!

Limited run performance wagons do just fine here in the US. Volvo proved this, AMG has done this, Cadillac did it, and now Audi has done it. Even Porsche has a Turbo wagon, and now and electric one, although those sales tend to slack, I think mainly because, in spite of the aesthetics, it offers no real utility over the regular Panamera.

Just waiting on BMW...

[Encanto]

The hope is for this M3 Touring to come to the USA and for BMWNA not to treat it like some limited edition model as pricing goes. This is no RS6 Avant.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by xlover

the i4 dash isn't really news because it was already noted in the upcoming model thread the 3 series LCI would include it. the M3 follows the 3 series for interior and rear end, 4 series for front exterior.

However, since ynguldyn left the M quartet out of that update, there's some ambiguity. While I agree that the simplest answer is G80 gets it 7/22, G82/G83 get it 3/23, it would be great to get confirmation of that.

[Transfer]

I don't see why a G81 in the US would be tens of thousands of dollars more than G80. It all depends on options I suppose but base price shouldn't be that different. And RS6 is monstrously enormous and competes with M5 so a completely different price category. This is all irrelevant though since we don't get it.

Competition xDrive is exactly how I want mmy G8x though so add me to that list of take my US money.

Side note if this is the type of dash that we are getting on G80/82 for LCI, looks like I want a pre-LCI (unless G81 ).

[JustChris]

Originally Posted by swampfox94

In competition + Mxdrive this car is gonna be pushing 100k. Super limited market I see why they're not really interested in bringing it to north america

Agreed but isn't that the X3M also?

[am3r1ka]

Originally Posted by CHE///MIST3

Wow, so does this mean that the G80 and G82 will come with the giant screen also starting from LCI onwards? I REALLY don't want this screen on my future build but i'm currently not ready to buy a pre-LCI model just yet.

GM

Comes down to you having slightly better reliability or dealing with the kinks of the pre lci model.

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by swampfox94

In competition + Mxdrive this car is gonna be pushing 100k. Super limited market I see why they're not really interested in bringing it to north america

It would be a direct competitor to the Audi RS 6 Avante, which goes for $130k+. Saw one the other day with a $50k mark up, so $180k for a $130k car. I think demand would be there, even with a fat premium

[SW19]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

However, since ynguldyn left the M quartet out of that update, there's some ambiguity. While I agree that the simplest answer is G80 gets it 7/22, G82/G83 get it 3/23, it would be great to get confirmation of that.

Does that mean that for the first time BMW could have a different layout for the dash in the M Models?He doesn’t list the G80,G82/G83 and G87 in the earlier thread.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1798195

I asked him in the future model thread but he didn’t reply to my post.

[W///]

Originally Posted by swampfox94

In competition + Mxdrive this car is gonna be pushing 100k. Super limited market I see why they're not really interested in bringing it to north america

With every option maybe? Why would it start at such a difference price point than an X3/4M. Sure, if you add carbon ceramics and carbon everything else, it'll go there. I think it would be closer to starting at mid 70's if they ever brought it here.

I'd love one personally, and it would be my pick out of the G80/2/3, even if it's auto only.

[pg80]

does this mean the current face could end up be out for only one year ?

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by Pantagathus

It would be a direct competitor to the Audi RS 6 Avante, which goes for $130k+. Saw one the other day with a $50k mark up, so $180k for a $130k car. I think demand would be there, even with a fat premium

No, it's not. Why do so many of you think this? RS6 is E-class AMG, M5, CTS-V competitor in size, power, and luxury. Just because you throw a long roof on an M3 doesn't push it up market by a whole class. Also X3M is virtually same price as G8x.

I mean, if you want to pay $130k for an M3, then ok.

[mkoesel]

Originally Posted by SW19

Does that mean that for the first time BMW could have a different layout for the dash in the M Models?He doesn’t list the G80,G82/G83 and G87 in the earlier thread.

https://g20.bimmerpost.com/forums/sh....php?t=1798195

No, because he's confirmed the G81 will get the new dash in this thread, and that means that the G80, G82, and G83 will also get it too. It's just a question of timing at this point.

Originally Posted by pg80

does this mean the current face could end up be out for only one year ?

No. Nothing will change on the front of the car. As far as the exterior goes, the G80 will get the G20 tail lights, and that's it.

[spuntyb]

Originally Posted by W///

With every option maybe? Why would it start at such a difference price point than an X3/4M. Sure, if you add carbon ceramics and carbon everything else, it'll go there. I think it would be closer to starting at mid 70's if they ever brought it here.

I'd love one personally, and it would be my pick out of the G80/2/3, even if it's auto only.

Limited run. Without an executive wagon being sold here to essentially homologate an M variant, it would be a special model, probably no more than 80-100 units. The financial drive there would likely put it in the $100k range.

It's only direct competition here in the US would be the quirky Volvo V60 Polestar which is a wonky turbo-4 with a supercharger and a plug-in hybrid unit. The G81 would blow it out of the water in terms of performance. It would essentially stand alone in that market. The F97/98 is pumped out of factories, and has plenty of competitors, as awesome as it is.

As mentioned above, it would not compete with the Panny ST, AMG wagon, RS6 Avant. Different class and price point.

[SW19]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

No, because he's confirmed the G81 will get the new dash in this thread, and that means that the G80, G82, and G83 will also get it too. It's just a question of timing at this point.

And probably the G87 will debut with the new dash because he confirmed that the G42 will get the new dash in 08/22.If i was in the market for a G80 i would buy now.That new dash layout looks terrible IMO.

[Pantagathus]

Originally Posted by Transfer

No, it's not. Why do so many of you think this? RS6 is E-class AMG, M5, CTS-V competitor in size, power, and luxury. Just because you throw a long roof on an M3 doesn't push it up market by a whole class. Also X3M is virtually same price as G8x.

I mean, if you want to pay $130k for an M3, then ok.

Sure, if they release an M5 touring.

I probably misspoke when I said a direct competitor. What I meant is that there will be a ton of people who can't justify $150k+ for an RS6, but will happily drop $100k+ for an M3 touring. The M3 touring in the US would fill that void in the market, particularly as a limited run car that could justify a higher price point

[cbertels]

Originally Posted by spuntyb

SEND THEM TO THE USA. I will buy one no questions asked.

thx

I'd rather the M340 or whatever it is because, well you know, the grill situation.

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by Stockholmarn

Great news! Perhaps the LCI will include a redesigned front end as well.

You want something even bigger?

[ynguldyn]

Originally Posted by mkoesel

However, since ynguldyn left the M quartet out of that update, there's some ambiguity. While I agree that the simplest answer is G80 gets it 7/22, G82/G83 get it 3/23, it would be great to get confirmation of that.

You have it. I simply assumed that was obvious.

[ynguldyn]

No G81 in USA
No G81 in USA
No G81 in USA

[Jcali86]

Originally Posted by SW19

If i was in the market for a G80 i would buy now.That new dash layout looks terrible IMO.

I hate the dash so much I'm probably going to buy instead of lease as I have no interest in an LCI. It was the number 1 reason, well maybe number 2 after the squeaky interiors, that I don't want a Mercedes, but even they have ditched it now. People need to stop copying the worst automotive interiors that are Tesla. I want a dash, not an iPad.

[Jcali86]

Originally Posted by cbertels

I'd rather the M340 or whatever it is because, well you know, the grill situation.

Gas instead of coals?

[535i MSport]

Originally Posted by Jcali86

Gas instead of coals?

It has to be charcoal every time. The food tastes so much better.