[dr_frankfurter]

Say what you will, but I couldn't care less about lap times. I really hope all the reviews aren't just going to be on the track. We all know the cars will be great on a track, so why ignore how it feels on a nice backroad or even around town? Chances are the car will spend the majority of its life on public roads.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by W///

Me too. Chris Harris review will be the first I'd want to read as well since he's an M fan in general and has an M2C

I think Chris Harris is fantastic and absolutely entertaining to watch however since I have to pay for my own tires and don't get the chance to be on a track as often as he does, I certainly can't use most of his impressions on my car buying decisions.

[m630]

Originally Posted by Sedan_Clan

Who knows?!? New marketing strategy?!? Different approach?!? Some of the suppression of information doesn't make sense to me, but I don't liken that to a lackluster product or crappy reviews. Not once has the incoming car not taken performance to another level, so why should I believe that'll be the case now?!?.....because some people dislike the design language?!? I've been around long enough to have seen this behavior play out three times over. This will be the fourth time, and frankly I'm not that invested in complaining.

I agree which is why Im confused with their marketing strategy.....Looks aside, Ive never expected it to be a lesser performing car than any previous M3, so why hide it and try to supress enthusaist convo??? Just seems like they’re going out of their way this time, but we’ll find out soon enuff I suppose....

[Sedan_Clan]

Originally Posted by m630

I agree which is why Im confused with their marketing strategy.....Looks aside, Ive never expected it to be a lesser performing car than any previous M3, so why hide it and try to supress enthusaist convo??? Just seems like they’re going out of their way this time, but we’ll find out soon enuff I suppose....

Agreed! My suspicion is the performance will be indubitably noteworthy on most accounts, which will make the embargo on reviews seem that much more silly/unnecessary.

[W///]

Originally Posted by Habber

I think Chris Harris is fantastic and absolutely entertaining to watch however since I have to pay for my own tires and don't get the chance to be on a track as often as he does, I certainly can't use most of his impressions on my car buying decisions.

I'll agree to disagree. While yes, some of the hooning he does is not going to be something I do with my personal cars, I do appreciate his ability to provide feedback on things like the steering, brakes, cornering, grip, exhaust sound ect ect... I like that he compares it to previous M cars (he's got experience with them going all the way back to cars made in the 80s). The guy is also a race car driver, so his word means a lot more than say someone like Schmee. I even like feedback on how cars look from him, because we very much have the same taste.

I also like the fact that he has no problem shooting a car down when he doesn't like them. So much so that Ferrari banned him from reviewing cars for a bit. He's also tired of reviewing hyper cars and will drive a Citroen 2CV because he finds them "interesting".

I have all day in the world for a guy like that, tired of Youtubers talking about ability to rewind on Sirius XM.

P.S. I will say I far prefer him on Chris Harris on Cars vs Top Gear though. I also rate Henry Catchpole highly.

[Ibiza]

Y'all have forgotten about the high pitched voice of "Hi I'm Shmeeeeeeee". 😂 I'm not looking forwarded to that annoying review.

[frankiebones]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

Y'all have forgotten about the high pitched voice of "Hi I'm Shmeeeeeeee". 😂 I'm notlooking forwarded to that annoying review.

Still the only guy that has driven a 6MT and not had the video pulled down lol.

[dr_frankfurter]

Originally Posted by W///

I have all day in the world for a guy like that, tired of Youtubers talking about ability to rewind on Sirius XM.

What? You mean you aren't excited to click on the pop-up banner to see how much you can save on a new M3 with Carwow?

[Ibiza]

Originally Posted by W///

I'll agree to disagree. While yes, some of the hooning he does is not going to be something I do with my personal cars, I do appreciate his ability to provide feedback on things like the steering, brakes, cornering, grip, exhaust sound ect ect... I like that he compares it to previous M cars (he's got experience with them going all the way back to cars made in the 80s). The guy is also a race car driver, so his word means a lot more than say someone like Schmee. I even like feedback on how cars look from him, because we very much have the same taste.

I also like the fact that he has no problem shooting a car down when he doesn't like them. So much so that Ferrari banned him from reviewing cars for a bit. He's also tired of reviewing hyper cars and will drive a Citroen 2CV because he finds them "interesting".

I have all day in the world for a guy like that, tired of Youtubers talking about ability to rewind on Sirius XM.

P.S. I will say I far prefer him on Chris Harris on Cars vs Top Gear though. I also rate Henry Catchpole highly.

Originally Posted by frankiebones

Still the only guy that has driven a 6MT and not had the video pulled down lol.

I wonder why, as he's not a neutral reviewer and clearly on the BMW Press payroll.

My take is the reviewers sell out to BMW and the automobile manufacturers, otherwise, the manufacturers would just find an an other social media influencer to pay off for positive posts.

[gemini.m3]

Originally Posted by Ibiza

I wonder why, as he's not a neutral reviewer and clearly on the BMW Press payroll.

My take is the reviewers sell out to BMW and the automobile manufacturers, otherwise, the manufacturers would just find an an other social media influencer to pay off for positive posts.

This happens more than people think. Take the nvidia thing that happened with hardware unboxed

[OM3N]

Originally Posted by hellrotm

Achilles is bought and paid for.

Catchpole is Carfection. Henry is near the top right now for reviewing vehicles.

[QUOTE=hellrotm;27293809]

Originally Posted by _E90S65_

I look forward to G80 reviews by Harris, Achilles, Farah and DeMuro.

Originally Posted by Nettles

One definitely does not belong in that group...

Achilles is bought and paid for.

By whom?
Did you see his X6M review?

He is legit.

[Bahamut]

Catchpole and Harris are the reviews I'm personally looking forward to on my end!

[solstice]

Originally Posted by Bahamut

Catchpole and Harris are the reviews I'm personally looking forward to on my end!

Harris has IMO matured as a reviewer and seeing him in TG where he show a relaxed attitude to himself has made me like him and I look forward to his reviews. When he first sailed up I didn’t like his reviews at all, it was well produced drifting videos and not much more except his 911 videos that always been ace.

[Habber]

Originally Posted by W///

I'll agree to disagree. While yes, some of the hooning he does is not going to be something I do with my personal cars, I do appreciate his ability to provide feedback on things like the steering, brakes, cornering, grip, exhaust sound ect ect... I like that he compares it to previous M cars (he's got experience with them going all the way back to cars made in the 80s). The guy is also a race car driver, so his word means a lot more than say someone like Schmee. I even like feedback on how cars look from him, because we very much have the same taste.

I also like the fact that he has no problem shooting a car down when he doesn't like them. So much so that Ferrari banned him from reviewing cars for a bit. He's also tired of reviewing hyper cars and will drive a Citroen 2CV because he finds them "interesting".

I have all day in the world for a guy like that, tired of Youtubers talking about ability to rewind on Sirius XM.

P.S. I will say I far prefer him on Chris Harris on Cars vs Top Gear though. I also rate Henry Catchpole highly.

Hahaha that guy Shmee drives me nuts but I do see your points.

👌

[Transfer]

Originally Posted by TheRealOrosie

Harris and Farah...at least.

This. Achilles reviews are bloated, useless and DeMuro is simply a jester.

Throttle House, Carwow, and Straight Pipes are useful too.

[AHall]

Throttle house are a bit too silly and full of themselves. I do like Harris, Rory Reid, Achilles. DeMuro and Straight Pipes. I think Reid is what Harris used to be in terms of his ability to articulate the driving experience.

[AlexFL]

Originally Posted by Germanauto

Lol that tweet. Plenty of cars can drift, both mediocre ones and exceptional ones.

From print media I'm most looking forward to reviews from Car & Driver, Motortrend, and specifically Jason Cammisa of Road & Track/Hagerty.

From Youtube, Throttle House and Savagegeese.

lol Throttle House is the worst...

[Germanauto]

Originally Posted by AlexFL

lol Throttle House is the worst...

The bearded dude usually tells it as it is with BMWs. He has an E46 M3 that he tracks so knows what a good BMW drives like.

[flanast]

About f en time

[stevehifi]

You're not buying a Camry here. This car sets the benchmark for the track saloon amongst its rivals. So yeah track prowess matters. What else are you supposed to use as a benchmark? Number of carbon fiber pieces tacked on to the car?

[TargaM2]

Originally Posted by Bahamut

Catchpole and Harris are the reviews I'm personally looking forward to on my end!

Agreed Chris Harris, Henry Catchpole, Matt Prior & Harry Metcalfe, these are actual motoring journalists.
The rest are cut & paste reviewers, amateurs & fanboys that add nothing of any value.

[seis-speed]

Originally Posted by frankiebones

Still the only guy that has driven a 6MT and not had the video pulled down lol.

True! He is a legit tier-1 media Rockstar who reviewed a manual like 9 months ago.

Shmee > BMW Embargo