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      06-05-2020, 03:28 AM   #309
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The normal 4er both in base and Msport version doesn't interest me at all. This real M is growing on me. It's the same that happened with the 2er coupé....the normal and M performance version are completely indifferent to me (and that's why I bought the M140i), but the M2 is something completely different and cool.

Let's see it in real life, but for sure, BMW is going to be considered (by me) only as far as true M versions. Below it's not worth it.
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Everything is a matter of opinion, but this (both the G22 and G82) just doesn't work for me. It's not just an optical problem. The design is wrong in principle.

The looks of a car should represent what's inside and form a harmonious unit where all pieces fall into place. We are now slowly moving into an electric or at least hybrid era of motoring. A futuristic design similar to the i8 would make way more sense. There's no structural technological reason for the inclusion of these huge grills, especially on the basic model 420i (probably unavailable in the States) with a 4 cylinder engine. What BMW forgets to mention when they talk about their older models with similarly long kidneys, is that they used to be a neccessity at that time to cool down the engine. If they planned to put an E60 style V10 engine in the G82, then maybe the kidney size would have been warranted. Instead we'll get a straight 6 for the M4, later we'll get the i4 and possibly hybrid versions of the G22 that will make the kidney grills stick out more than ever before. If it's not functional, then it has little business being on a car that should be designed around driving experience. That's why I've always loved the E92, especially the pre-lci non-m-sport version.

The G22 and (judging from this leak) the G82 are all over the place. Both cars seem to have a muscle car front attached to an elegant gran tourer rear. The marketing department, in their attempts to create an imposing front and give the car more presence in front of young ADHD stricken audiences, took over and created something that a true car enthusiast, especially someone who cares about the whole package, shouldn't condone.

The only good news about this for me is that I don't regret ordering a brand new F36 gran coupe. I just never thought I would ever call its design "subtle".
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      06-05-2020, 03:43 AM   #311
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Cant really say it's beautiful but it looks like a BEAST. In a good way !
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      06-05-2020, 03:45 AM   #312
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Updated with pics from @frank.m2 revealing the G82 M4!
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      06-05-2020, 03:49 AM   #313
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What the hell, I am lost for words
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I would have love to been a fly on the wall in the meeting room when the board approved this design.
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People crack me up... look up a thread when F8x was released, most were crying about the looks and now F8x is/was best looking M ever. One pic and you can tell that G8x makes F8x look from another decade. Stance and aggression on the thing is pure //M(adness)
FACTS ONLY! I recall statements over the abomination on how the headlights connect(ed) to the grille! This is already being burned at the stake, but, as soon as that test drive happens, the tide of sentiment will change.

BRING THIS ON BMW!
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      06-05-2020, 04:46 AM   #316
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Okay, I feel better. At least in these shots, it looks way better than the 4er
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My F82 just shot up in value
Nope
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Love it!
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My F82 just shot up in value
Nope, going down every day you drive it.
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FACTS ONLY! I recall statements over the abomination on how the headlights connect(ed) to the grille! This is already being burned at the stake, but, as soon as that test drive happens, the tide of sentiment will change.

BRING THIS ON BMW!
+1

People can have their opinions but car designing is a thankless job 90% of the time. If you go the safe route, people will call you boring and conservative. If you go bold, you are called an outright failure where sales will drop Covid-like 80%.

I think the vertical in-your-face grill looks modern but still anchored to the past. This is super exciting times to see all our favorite models we re-imagined.
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I prefer this
That without a hood line is all that was needed.
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I like it. Perfect with a carefully selected custom plate. Embrace the grille.
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This is the first time a car has disgusted me so much that I lose my appetite completely for upgrading to something new when I see it. I knew this was going to be a fail, and have been focusing on moving into an 992 911, but seeing this leaked is like seeing something disgusting before a meal and you just no longer are hungry for anything. It just makes me not even care about cars anymore, and makes me feel as though I should just get back into my F80 and drive as far away from this as possible.

The design is so lost, confusing, and incomplete. It is as if some JDM fan ran out of money and has two different sets of rims and only half of the panels painted on his car.
You sound like a Karen.
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+1

People can have their opinions but car designing is a thankless job 90% of the time. If you go the safe route, people will call you boring and conservative. If you go bold, you are called an outright failure where sales will drop Covid-like 80%.

I think the vertical in-your-face grill looks modern but still anchored to the past. This is super exciting times to see all our favorite models we re-imagined.
*THANKLESS JOB*
You've called it squarely! The design team can't remain stuck in the past. I'm glad BMW have taken this bold approach. As far as I know, the fascia design of the unveiled 4er and the leaks on this M3/4 has quite a number of people talking and taking notice, which is good for the brand.
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This is the first time a car has disgusted me so much that I lose my appetite completely for upgrading to something new when I see it. I knew this was going to be a fail, and have been focusing on moving into an 992 911, but seeing this leaked is like seeing something disgusting before a meal and you just no longer are hungry for anything. It just makes me not even care about cars anymore, and makes me feel as though I should just get back into my F80 and drive as far away from this as possible.

The design is so lost, confusing, and incomplete. It is as if some JDM fan ran out of money and has two different sets of rims and only half of the panels painted on his car.
OMG get over yourself....it makes me not even car about cars anymore???? FFS
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If the M5, X3M, M8 are a gauge of whats coming in the new M3/4, everyone will get in line and accept the grille. It’s going to be ripping quick and fun. And for the millionth time, I like it
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That without a hood line is all that was needed.
I agree, that's what would've saved the design.
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People can have their opinions but car designing is a thankless job 90% of the time. If you go the safe route, people will call you boring and conservative. If you go bold, you are called an outright failure where sales will drop Covid-like 80%.

I think the vertical in-your-face grill looks modern but still anchored to the past. This is super exciting times to see all our favorite models we re-imagined.
Spot on. Not just for car design but for all design. Some people fear change. Some embrace it. The remainder adapt.

They've done a great job on this.

Luddites cry in your soup.
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Maybe the designers took LSD.
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Except for the M4 badge being present.
ya. wasn't sure if that was real or not. I was initially looking at the front end which wasn't mounted on a car. Looks like two threads were merged.
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